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Boundary refuse collections
« on: March 11, 2005, 08:31:50 pm »
Welwyn Hatfield says that from next month, household rubbish will only be collect if it is left on the boundary of properties. The authority is also discouraging the use of wheelie bins. Click here for more details
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 03:38:55 pm »
Sure tis fine PR, put up the charge, reduce the service and then pretend that these so called public servants are doing everyone some kind of favour.
Proof if proof were needed that the poulus will accept anything,
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Re: Boundary refuse collections
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2005, 02:09:50 pm »
I do not follow the councils theory that Wheelie Bins collect more rubbish than sacks. Surely if the amount goes up this just goes to prove that there is more waste to dispose of. By discouraging its proper disposal they are creating more litter and the likelyhood of fly tipping. If they really want to reduce waste why do they not issue us with recycling bins for metal and plastic ?
 

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Re: Boundary refuse collections
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2005, 02:24:58 pm »
If they really want to reduce waste why do they not issue us with recycling bins for metal and plastic?

I've often wondered this. When we lived in north London we had a plastic recycling collection, which seemed to make sense particularly if it is otherwise dumped in landfill sites. The WHDC website answers this question as follows.

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Q  Why don’t we recycle plastic?

A  At present it is not economically viable to recycle plastics for a number of reasons:

  • There are over 30 types of plastic but only 5 that can be recycled
  • This means manually sorting plastic or investing in expensive machinery to do the job, which in any case is not 100% reliable
  • We mentioned above that the law makes us concentrate on removing bio-degradable waste from land fill sites, as plastic is not bio-degradable it is safer to bury it than other rubbish
  • Plastic is very bulky but also very light, it therefore needs to be collected more frequently and requires more vehicles, this also contributes to transport levels and vehicle pollution
  • Plastics often have to sent a very long distance for recycling, much of it currently goes to China for instance, this extra transport has an additional environmental impact

All this means it is better for the Council to spend its money on collecting Paper, Glass and Green Waste more effectively before we move on to plastic. We are however continuing to monitor the recycling markets and do intend to try and introduce plastic recycling by 2006 if the environmental and economic conditions allow it.

Not sure about metal, I couldn't find anything on the WHDC website FAQs .
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2005, 03:03:04 pm »
David, thanks for the information. Perhaps you could find out the reason behind the council's theory that wheelie bins create more waste. Where do they think the extra comes from? What must we all do with it (whatever it is) in B.P. due to the lack of wheelie bins? Surely, if this has been the case in other areas, somebody must have looked into why and what it is? Of course one answer could be that the council do want to pay out for the bins because they are spending the money on sweeping our roads, reinstating our broken paving and putting hanging baskets on our lamp posts to brighten up our fortunate village. :icon_scratch:
 

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Re: Boundary refuse collections
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2005, 03:08:15 pm »
The reason is set out in the council's refuse collection FAQs. Click here to read them.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2005, 03:28:29 pm »
It’s a variation of Parkinson’s Law: “Work expands to fill the time allowed for it” or in this case “Rubbish is thrown away to the maximum capacity of the receptacle.” In other words, larger bins removes pressure on people to recycle. They probably have a case with this. When we have large items delivered – e.g. furniture, washing machine etc – we ask the delivery people to take the packaging away as it is too much hassle for us to get rid of it. This returned packaging gives the delivery firm and/or manufacturer the problem, thereby – hopefully - encouraging them to reduce the amount they create.
 

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Re: Boundary refuse collections
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2005, 11:25:18 pm »
In our town we recycle plastics (nos 1 & 2 - separated by the householder), cans, aluminium cans, glass and paper.  Each type is placed in a supermarket plastic bag and put out by the front gate each week for collection along with the normal rubbish bag.  The council then sends around 2 trucks - one for the rubbish bags and one for the recycleables.  It seems to work very well.
There are also private firms that have a wheelie bin service for people who have more rubbish.
Unfortunately we don't have a green waste collection but green waste can be taken to the to certain sites in town where it is composted.
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