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General Discussion Boards => Neighbourhood Watch and Local Crime => Topic started by: Editor on May 31, 2009, 12:58:45 pm

Title: Police 'trap cars'
Post by: Editor on May 31, 2009, 12:58:45 pm
Police have set 'trap cars' in the area in order to catch would be car thieves and act as a deterrent. Click here (http://www.brookmans.com/news/may09/police_trap_cars.shtml) for more details.
Title: Re: Police 'trap cars'
Post by: stevea on May 31, 2009, 10:36:34 pm
I can see it deterring the odd Joe Blogg joy rider or the opportunist car radio/sat nav thief, but I can't see it stopping the professional stealing a 100grand Merc off a driveway.
Title: Re: Police 'trap cars'
Post by: Mallow on June 02, 2009, 07:47:19 pm
Call me Lightning for short - but why put up signs announcing the possible existance of police trap cars.  Doesn't that give th game away a bit?

Actually I know the answer to this question, so consider this post a comment.

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Title: Re: Police 'trap cars'
Post by: Editor on June 02, 2009, 08:35:58 pm

Call me Lightning for short - but why put up signs announcing the possible existance of police trap cars.  Doesn't that give th game away a bit?


Well it's certainly put me off nicking cars.

 8)
Title: Re: Police 'trap cars'
Post by: Ferdie on June 02, 2009, 11:30:02 pm

Call me Lightning for short - but why put up signs announcing the possible existance of police trap cars.  Doesn't that give th game away a bit?


It'll be probably against the thieves human rights if we don't let them know ::)
Title: Re: Police 'trap cars'
Post by: Bob Horrocks on June 03, 2009, 10:56:39 am
It is the same as the 'speed check' signs at each approach road to Brookmans Park.

Also I believe the authorities cannot use CCTV evidence unless there are warning signs to say that CCTV is operating in the area.  A lack of clear signage has been used in Court to overturn a clamping fine so signs, or lack of them, can work in your favour if you have 'misbehaved'.
Title: Re: Police 'trap cars'
Post by: heharim on June 03, 2009, 11:55:50 pm
It is the same as the 'speed check' signs at each approach road to Brookmans Park.

Also I believe the authorities cannot use CCTV evidence unless there are warning signs to say that CCTV is operating in the area.  A lack of clear signage has been used in Court to overturn a clamping fine so signs, or lack of them, can work in your favour if you have 'misbehaved'.

The difference being that parking on the "king's highway" is a permitted act - unless told otherwise by yellow lines, restriction signs, noties saying that this is private land and not public etc

We have a presumed right of privacy meaning that we should not have photos or recordings made of us without our permission - permission is implied by remaining in an area which is signposted - or going on to Google Street view

Stealing cars is never a permitted activity - even for scousers  :icon_jokercolor:
Title: Re: Police 'trap cars'
Post by: Aidan Winwood on June 08, 2009, 11:15:02 pm
It is the same as the 'speed check' signs at each approach road to Brookmans Park.

Also I believe the authorities cannot use CCTV evidence unless there are warning signs to say that CCTV is operating in the area.  A lack of clear signage has been used in Court to overturn a clamping fine so signs, or lack of them, can work in your favour if you have 'misbehaved'.

Is it going to be a little like the flashing '30 mph' signs that you see?  Flashing LED signs next to a lure car, stating 'this car is being watched in case anyone fancies stealing it, steer clear robbers!'

That would certainly put me off if I was going to chance my arm...

:o)

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Title: Re: Police 'trap cars'
Post by: John_fraser on June 09, 2009, 06:31:19 am
I think that's the idea. There could only be one or two cars used as bait and these couldn't be watched 24/7. Therefore, even in a place as small as BP, a thief would have good odds of breaking into a car and getting away with it during such an operation. By placing the signs the police deter the criminal from committing the crime by increasing the apparent risk.