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Title: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Cassie on August 01, 2006, 07:15:14 am
I see there's another spam advert (Jabari)

Not sure which moderators are around to delete it.
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: John_fraser on August 01, 2006, 07:50:05 am
Sadly I don't have the rights to change adds. It will have to wait for Dave.
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Cassie on August 03, 2006, 07:44:53 am
I see there's another spam advert (Jabari)

Not sure which moderators are around to delete it.

... and again!!! ::)
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: James Bentall on August 03, 2006, 11:00:40 am
We are trying some new measures to try and stop people spamming the adverts. I have added an IP blocking facility to try and reduce 'repeat offenders' and there are a couple of other measures I will be writing in to the script this week which will also help.

James
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on October 11, 2006, 03:49:20 pm
Someone keeps adding an advert to the classified section for used cars. The contact details are not clear. The adverts usually read something like this.

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Cars and Motoring rell authomobiles international. we deal on all kinds of luxury cars,including jaguar slyle p,bmw x5,lincoln navigator,hummer3,royale lincoln,etc.at the cheapest prices,our special services include,delivering to your door step before payment.you can reach us with our mail, *****@yahoo.com. you will be glad u did. thanks in anticipation.


I suspect it's spam, but even if it isn't, we don't allow commercial companies to use the classifieds. If the person who posted is reading this, just a reminder that the service is for non-commercial local sales only --- as set out in the site's guidelines (http://www.brookmans.com/guidelines.shtml#adverts) and on the Classified Ads  (http://www.brookmans.com/adverts/) page.

David

Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Neville Hobbs on January 08, 2007, 07:19:06 pm
I am amazed that people place private adverts on this site and dont include a contact no !!!!!!
Honda Dylan motorbike, Help with School Run and 1930's piano advers for example.
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on January 08, 2007, 07:25:39 pm
I am amazed that people place private adverts on this site and dont include a contact no !!!!!!
Honda Dylan motorbike, Help with School Run and 1930's piano advers for example.

Hi Neville,

Click on the 'more' link under the front page advert then the 'contact this person' link on the advert itself and then you will find the number and the email form for getting in touch.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Neville Hobbs on January 09, 2007, 08:54:08 am
Hi David,
There isnt a button for "More information" . There is one for Whats on though.
If I cannot find it easily then noone else can either ;)
Neville
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Mermaid on January 09, 2007, 09:19:43 am

Hi Neville

Can you see a 'contact this person' button? That's the one that will give you the info if you click on it.

I still have problems with this area too. Although I can click the button and see a phone number if the advertiser has put it on, I do not get an email template and cannot email them.

I also had a problem with the blog section because after the initial launch when everything was fine, something changed and I couldn't access the text, only the headers and sometimes the pictures. I wasn't therefore able to take part in the blog section and did wonder if others were having a problem too and that's why it didn't take off as it should have done.

I raised both of these issues at the time, but just got the reply that no-one else had a problem.

All I can say is that if anyone reading this thread is experiencing similar problems, then let the editorial team know and maybe they can put it right.
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: sasquartch on January 09, 2007, 09:28:28 am
It is not unheard of for 'security' software to cause this sort of problem, I've seen some strange things caused by Norton Internet Security for example, although can't recall the exact symptoms.

This might explain why a problem appears to affect only one user.

Unfortunately for a non-commercial site it would be impractical to test everything against various browser versions, operating systems and software configurations. I used to work at a web design company and a major part of any web project was testing to ensure everything worked consistently across different configurations.

Neville - are you running any such software you could temporarily turn off and see if the symptoms change ?
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Neville Hobbs on January 09, 2007, 10:36:34 am

Neville - are you running any such software you could temporarily turn off and see if the symptoms change ?


How very knowledgable you are.
Without Norton protecting me from lifes viruses, the "More" button has appeared. Very strange. Thank you, I didnt think I was blind.

Computers!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on January 09, 2007, 01:39:16 pm

Without Norton protecting me from lifes viruses, the "More" button has appeared. Very strange. Thank you, I didnt think I was blind.

Computers!!!!!!!

You don't need to turn Norton off, just lower the setting. You will still be protected and will be able to see all the links.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: supersonic on January 09, 2007, 08:48:29 pm
Hi Neville,

If you're running Norton Internet Security try this. I posted a while back when I was running Norton Internet Security 2004.

Open NIS and click on the 'AntiSpam' button. Click on Ad Blocking (5th link down) and then click the Configure button. Next click on 'add site' at botom of page and enter www.brookman.com then click OK. Now find it in the list and click on it once to highlight it, then at the bottom of the next window click on 'add'. Select 'Permit' and in the text box enter /adverts/ (including the slashes). Click OK, and then the OK button at the bottom of the page. Close NIS. Job done.

Good luck,
supersonic
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on January 10, 2007, 06:13:56 am
Hi Neville,

If you're running Norton Internet Security try this. I posted a while back when I was running Norton Internet Security 2004.

Open NIS and click on the 'AntiSpam' button. Click on Ad Blocking (5th link down) and then click the Configure button. Next click on 'add site' at botom of page and enter www.brookman.com then click OK. Now find it in the list and click on it once to highlight it, then at the bottom of the next window click on 'add'. Select 'Permit' and in the text box enter /adverts/ (including the slashes). Click OK, and then the OK button at the bottom of the page. Close NIS. Job done.

Good luck,
supersonic

Hi Supersonic,

Thanks for that. A great tip. With my Norton Internet Security there is one more step needed between sentence two and three.

"Open NIS and click on the 'AntiSpam' button. Click on Ad Blocking (5th link down) and then click the Configure button. Click on the ADVANCED button. Next click on 'add site' at botom of page and enter www.brookman.com then click OK."

David

Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Neville Hobbs on January 10, 2007, 08:54:35 am
I wonder why I didnt know that :) So simple.
Thanks guys, job done. Now I can see the more button every time I log on.
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on March 12, 2007, 07:49:53 pm
A regular on the Brookmans Park Forum posted items for sale recently and received a dodgy looking reply. If anyone selling things on the site receives a response like this I'd be tempted not to reply.

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MY NAME IS ADAMS SCOTT
I want to bring your attention to the ()you are selling.I want
to know if it is so much available for sale or it has been sold?because
i wantthe ()for my father, Just get back to me with details and also its
condition beside the one you stated in the advert.Pics will be
highly ok if there is any for the and furthermore,PLS KINDLY LET ME KNOW THE LAST ASKING PRICE ok and the payment will be made by money order cheque to clear.awaiting your response soonest
thankls

Looks like a standard form with brackets for the item listed.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Neville Hobbs on March 13, 2007, 08:42:55 am
I received 3 of these dodgy e-mails in reply to an advert I placed for a car in Auto Trader. I decided to follow these enquiries to see where they led. Each enquirer wanted to send me a cheque for 2 to 3 times the value of the car and then wanted me to send the balance by Western Union. I received 3 fraudulent cheques. I managed to persuade these crooks who were in Nigeria to go to a designated Western Union branch to supposedly collect the cash balance from me. Hopefully their images were captured on CCTV - the police are looking into the matter.
If I was not so alert, I could have been badly conned as the banks will say that the cheques have cleared and later, when the fraudulent cheques are discovered, the banks will just claw back the money. Apparently, one is supposed to ask if the cheques have been GIVEN VALUE to find out if they have actually been paid.
Take care.
Neville
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: sasquartch on March 13, 2007, 12:33:44 pm
This is a classic 'advance fee' fraud commonly perpetrated by Nigerian and other west african con artists.

An amusing and informative website is at http://www.scambuster419.co.uk/ which covers the general subject and the advert scam in particular at http://www.scambuster419.co.uk/classifiedadscams.htm
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Aidan Winwood on March 14, 2007, 01:59:55 pm
what an outstanding website!!

A
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Silver on March 14, 2007, 07:12:46 pm
Besides the scam replies to ads, there are also the dodgy emails from Nigeria. I get these regularly.  Obviously I delete them, but since their suggestions for various financial deals are clearly illegal, I wonder whether I should report to the police. Mind you - I suppose they would be indundated if everyone reported them!
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on November 17, 2007, 07:46:27 am
We received a feedback email overnight seeking clarification about the rules for this site's classified ads feature.

The system is for local private sales only, not trade.

Individuals may post regarding the sale of larger items, such as houses or cars, but agents are not allowed to use the facility to sell goods that would normally be traded commercially.

This is so that we can protect the service for local people to dispose of unwanted goods and for those buying to pick up a bargain.

Users may post multiple adverts; there is no limited on the number of items you can sell, but we only allow one post for each item.

We have had cases of the same item being posted twice and described slightly differently in order to try to widen the appeal. This just leads to confusion. It also creates suspicion in the eyes of the moderators as to whether the advert is being placed by a business rather than an individual.

If the volunteers running the Brookmans Park Newsletter feel an an advert is offering offensive material (see the guidelines on taste and decency (http://www.brookmans.com/guidelines.shtml#taste)) or that it breaks the rules, the advert will be removed.

Where it is not offensive, but where we suspect a business concern behind the advert, we usually email the author to seek clarification. If you are posting multiple items it is worth adding a line explaining why, such as "moving home and clearing loft" or something similar.

The Brookmans Park Newsletter can take no responsibility for unsatisfactory sales and nor can it take responsibility for the quality of goods on offer or the fairness of the price. There is no charge to use the facility and all dealings will be between the person selling and the person buying.

If these rules, and those set out in the site's editorial guidelines for adverts (http://www.brookmans.com/guidelines.shtml#adverts), are not clear in any way, please let us know.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on May 10, 2008, 04:28:17 pm
The classified ads section has been set so that adverts expire after two months.

This is because many were out of date and some several years old.

As a result the Classified Adverts section has been pruned from several hundred ads to 18.

If your item has not sold, but expired, please feel free to post again.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: rpakey on November 09, 2008, 07:24:29 am
Anyone know if a local business directory exists? The ones I have seen promote all local businesses, by way of paid adverts which are then delivered to each residential address in the local area
If one does, could you supply details through this post, thanks
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on November 09, 2008, 07:34:18 am
Hi rpakey,

I presume you mean in hard copy? I think Thompson's Local still exists, although I can't find my copy in the house. They have a website (click here (http://www.thomsonlocal.com/)). If you are also interested in online advertising, there is our Business Directory (click here (http://www.brookmans.com/business/)) where you can add details of your business in a searchable database free-of-charge.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Angel on April 18, 2009, 09:10:37 am
There's a couple of ads on the home page in the classified ads but they don't have any information about them - one is called 'Happyland' and the other is one for a Nanny available, qualified and experienced

 ???
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on April 18, 2009, 09:24:44 am
Thanks Angel, that usually happens when things are sold or when people have second thoughts; they often edit the entries down to remove the details. I will delete them.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: mannyd on June 09, 2009, 08:29:28 pm
I thought classified ads were not supposed to advertise services?? (Or so I was told when I wanted to 'advertise' my request for buying/selling china). Is not the catering advert a breach of the site's rules? Don't know where to raise this issue other than here....
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on June 09, 2009, 09:44:15 pm
Hi Mannyd, you are right. I will remove it and write to those who placed it suggesting it goes in the business directory.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Angel on June 10, 2009, 09:00:51 am
I'm a bit confused then as we often get ads from people offering babysitting, cleaning services etc so why is that so different?

The young person who placed the ad was featured in Chancellors Newsletter recently.  I'm not sure he actually has a business as such
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on June 10, 2009, 09:05:35 am
Hi Angel,

The classifieds is for selling unwanted goods and for picking up a bargain. It's also for help wanted or help offered. I have viewed babysitting, odd jobs and cleaning in this category.

The business directory is for local businesses who want a free, searchable listing. We have been looking at ways of surfacing some of these businesses in a random feed that appears on the front page so it can display local firms and help them.

However we want to try to keep the two apart; I admit it is a difficult call at times.

Here is what it says at the top of the classified ads page.

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Welcome to the Brookmans Park Newsletter adverts page. Here you can buy and sell items online. The system is for local private sales only and not commercial/trade transactions or promotions. The classified ads section exists to enable people to dispose of unwanted goods and for those buying to pick up a bargain. Individuals may post regarding the sale of larger items, such as houses or cars, but agents are not allowed to use the facility to sell goods that would normally be traded commercially. You may post multiple adverts, but please only post one advert for each item.

Here is what it says on the business directory page.

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The Brookmans Park Newsletter Business Directory is a free service for local businesses. It is replacing the old contacts page. If you want to add your details to the new directory and join the other 122  local businesses already listed, simply click on 'add a new entry' and complete the form. Businesses must comply with the site's editorial guidelines. Any problems or questions, please let us know.

The site's guidelines also cover this. Click here (http://www.brookmans.com/guidelines.shtml#adverts) to read the relevant bit.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: James Bentall on June 21, 2009, 10:40:34 pm
We have added a box to the front page on the left which chooses a business at random from our directory and publicises it on the front page. Please look at them and support our local businesses if you can!

James
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on June 22, 2009, 06:03:23 am
For all those who have added their local business to the directory, the featured business changes randomly whenever you refresh or revisit the page.

Thanks James, a great addition.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on July 05, 2009, 03:07:57 pm
If anyone has an entry in the business directory can you please check all the details are up to date. I just want to make sure all have the latest information. An different entry now appears on the front page of the site with each visit.

Thanks

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Angel on August 10, 2009, 10:56:39 pm
I just clicked on a link in an advert as it was showing up on the front page and it didn't work as it was trying to take me to www.brookmans.com/www and the website name (The one I clicked on was Sorted Dinner Parties)

I then tried the one above (Smith's Schoolwear) and that was wrong as well.  I hovered over a few others and they had the right url at the bottom of my browser.

Don't know how many are wrong as I don't have time at the moment to check through but just thought I'd let the moderators know
 ;) :)
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on August 11, 2009, 06:52:09 am
Hi Angel,

Thanks for letting me know. It is because people who have added business directory entries have left out the http:// bit of the URL. I will talk to James to see whether there is a fast way of fixing this rather than manually fixing the 128 entries.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on September 22, 2009, 12:34:30 pm
Now that the business directory is displaying a local business (in random rotation) on the front page, would forum users please mind looking out for any that are 1) no longer in business or 2) not local and let us know, please?  We want to make sure that all those listed are still operating and that they are local firms based in the local community.  If you spot anything please let us know by using the contact us form (http://www.brookmans.com/contact.php).

Thanks

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on September 23, 2009, 03:56:09 pm
Thanks to all those who have:


The business directory is getting a much needed clean up.

Hopefully, now it is displayed more prominently on the front page, with a business featured randomly with each visit or refresh, the facility will be of more use to local people and the local businesses.

If anyone has forgotten their business directory password you can use the contact us form (http://www.brookmans.com/contact.php) and we will reset it.

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on July 18, 2010, 04:55:57 pm
Just a reminder that the site's classified adverts section (http://www.brookmans.com/adverts/) is for the selling of unwanted goods, or posting about help needed. It's not for promoting local businesses. It can be used if it is a student offering to baby sit or someone looking for a baby sitter etc. But it is not for promoting commercial businesses such as cleaning and driving tuition etc.  The site's business directory (http://www.brookmans.com/business/) has been set up for those wanting to promote their local businesses.

Thanks

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on July 19, 2010, 08:19:38 am
I have had to remove another commercial entry from the classified adverts section this morning.  (They were very nice about it and are now posting in the Business Directory).

Just to clarify, the Business Directory is there to promote local businesses. Anyone representing a local business is welcome to add their details (http://www.brookmans.com/business/add.php). A local business is promoted on the top left of the front page each time the site is visited. The order is random and computer generated, but it is a good way of attracting attention. When making a business entry make sure the title and the description are compelling and best describes what you are offering.

The Classified Ads are for the selling of unwanted goods and for appeals for help needed or offers of help. This may include the occasional job offer placed by students for baby sitting etc, but is not for proper businesses. Again, anyone local is welcome to use the facility (http://www.brookmans.com/adverts/add.php). Again, the title and summary are important, but less is seen on the three item display - again on the front page of the site. This display is not randomly generated (as in the Business Directory), but is chronological.

Thanks

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on December 19, 2010, 08:09:10 pm
If you use this site's free classified adverts section, please be sure to add enough information to the title of your post. A description of the item being sold is more likely to get clicked than the words 'for sale', which could be anything. Similarly 'wanted to rent' could mean a house, garage, car etc.

You have 100 characters to play with for the title, so that should be enough to write an eye-catching, must-click headline that will attract potential purchasers.

By the way, all are welcome to use this free facility for non-commmercial sales. The latest three posts show up on the front page of the site.  http://www.brookmans.com/adverts/add.php
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on February 22, 2012, 07:47:51 am
The classified adverts section is currently down for maintenance (Wed 22 Feb). I will post when we have fixed the problem.

And a reminder. The classified ads section is for non-commercial entries. If you want to promote a local business please use the free business directory (http://www.brookmans.com/business/).

Thanks

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on February 23, 2012, 06:31:11 am
The free classified adverts (http://www.brookmans.com/adverts/) section is up and running again. It's for non-commercial transactions. If you want to post about your business you can use the free business directory (http://www.brookmans.com/business/).
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Angel on February 25, 2012, 08:31:03 am
I see there's another classified advert for Maths Tuition added today!
 ::)
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on February 25, 2012, 08:37:56 am
I see there's another classified advert for Maths Tuition added today!
 ::)

Thanks Angel, I was removing it as you posted. It's gone now. As in all cases I always write to the person who posted the advert, copy the original text and suggest they put the information in the free business directory.  http://www.brookmans.com/business/add.php (http://www.brookmans.com/business/add.php)

David
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on July 29, 2012, 09:36:43 pm
I have just tidied up the business directory http://www.brookmans.com/business/ (http://www.brookmans.com/business/) and removed a couple of dozen entries that were for businesses outside North Mymms. Just a reminder that the free directory is for local businesses only.
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on October 02, 2015, 10:44:32 am
We have fixed the site's local business directory (http://www.brookmans.com/business/). A random selection of businesses will now feature on the home page of the site and change every time the page is refreshed. They are halfway down the page in the right hand column. You can still add your local business to the directory free of charge by going here (http://www.brookmans.com/business/add.php) and entering the details.
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: sasquartch on October 02, 2015, 11:56:37 am
I Although I can access the business directory from your link I cannot see it on the front page for some reason.

Possibly my company firewall but cannot even see where it should be.
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Mermaid on October 02, 2015, 12:01:19 pm
No, I can't see it either, only by clicking through from Dave's link  ???
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on October 02, 2015, 12:56:22 pm
Sorry folks, my fault, I uploaded it as a test and then forgot to do it on the live site.  ::)  Apologies. It's there now.
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on October 03, 2015, 08:08:13 am
Update: We have temporarily removed the local business directory box from the front page right hand column because there is an intermittent problem which stops it rendering properly. Sorry about that. We will restore when fixed. Image of problem below for those interested. Below that is what it should look like with a random listing refreshed on each visit.
Title: Re: Classified adverts and the business directory
Post by: Editor on December 08, 2015, 11:12:13 am
I am sorry to say that we have been unable to fix the box on the front of the site that used to display a random selection of local businesses. Apologies, there seems to be an intermittent problem with the script. I realise quite a few people used that feature, so I have added a link to the top of the navigation bar on the front page to the local business section (http://www.brookmans.com/business/). Please feel free to follow that link, click on 'Add a new entry (http://www.brookmans.com/business/add.php)', and upload/update the details of your local company if you want. Others can search for local businesses on that page, too.