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Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« on: April 18, 2006, 05:00:12 pm »
Yes, the road was heavily patched up at my request a couple of months
ago as a "stop gap" measure before the road is more permanently repaired
in May this year as previously advised to you.

As far as I am aware, the small drainage scheme and road surfacing are
still due to take place in the second half of May 2006 and I confirm
that these works have been ordered.

The Area Engineer has marked up the road for the surfacing which will
comprise planing off a large area (approx 600 sq m) and placing new road
surface. The finished surface will be uniform and the smaller patches
will no longer be visible.

Thanks,

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2006, 01:42:22 pm »
Too late the marks have already been worn off!
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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2006, 08:44:00 pm »
Too late the marks have already been worn off!

You are meant to drive around the marks!
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 09:42:51 am »
Water End, Hawkeshead Lane has now had the rough bit, by the hump-back bridge resufaced, at long last. 24k well spent!! :icon_jokercolor:
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2014, 01:52:05 pm »
Someone (presumably the council) has made a token effort to fill the potholes at the bottom of Hawkshead Lane.

Their strategy seems to have been just to chuck a few bits of uneven tarmac in the worst of the holes and completely ignore the rest of them.

Is this seriously the best they can do?

The whole road is a disgrace and needs completely re-surfacing.
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2014, 11:30:15 am »
Someone (presumably the council) has made a token effort to fill the potholes at the bottom of Hawkshead Lane.

Their strategy seems to have been just to chuck a few bits of uneven tarmac in the worst of the holes and completely ignore the rest of them.

Is this seriously the best they can do?

The whole road is a disgrace and needs completely re-surfacing.

Yes and next week they are closing the whole road for five days, presumably to do a proper job, which makes the pothole repair a complete waste of time and money!
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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2014, 07:24:56 pm »
Someone (presumably the council) has made a token effort to fill the potholes at the bottom of Hawkshead Lane.

Their strategy seems to have been just to chuck a few bits of uneven tarmac in the worst of the holes and completely ignore the rest of them.

Is this seriously the best they can do?

The whole road is a disgrace and needs completely re-surfacing.

Yes and next week they are closing the whole road for five days, presumably to do a proper job, which makes the pothole repair a complete waste of time and money!

Not sure what they're playing at to be honest?

I drove down Hawkshead Lane at 7:30am Thursday, there were 4 or 5 council lorries at various points along the road, 20 or so workmen in evidence and more surfacing equipment by the bridge at the junction with Warrengate.

Excellent I thought, they're going to do the whole road properly.

Avoided it on the way home from work yesterday as I was expecting it to be closed for 5 days. This morning however I noticed the 'road closed' sign at the Hawkshead Road end had gone so I ventured down there.

They have applied three 'patches' between the railway bridge and the vet college and that's it. The bottom end of the road where the surface has completely disintegrated hasn't been touched!

As all the closure notices have gone I'm assuming they won't be back either. What exactly was the point of sending 20 blokes down there and then completely ignoring the worst bit? Ridiculous state of affairs.
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2014, 09:44:00 pm »
I reported a pot hole to HCC, I got a reply saying it had been looked at but was not deemed urgent. If someone strikes it at a reasonable speed chances are they will damage their wheel/suspension. If only they fixed things properly, but that would probably be too much to ask....  ???
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2014, 12:07:09 am »
Some years ago, when Hawkshead Lane was in a state of disrepair, I went to the trouble of finding out who HCC's insurers were.  Then I wrote a letter to HCC with a copy to the insurance company expressing my concern regarding the state of the road and the fact that I was a motorcyclist and the risk of an accident due to the potholes, ridges and gullies.  The road was repaired quite quickly despite the fact I never received a reply. Was this just an ugly coincidence?
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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2014, 11:49:07 am »
Some years ago, when Hawkshead Lane was in a state of disrepair, I went to the trouble of finding out who HCC's insurers were.  Then I wrote a letter to HCC with a copy to the insurance company expressing my concern regarding the state of the road and the fact that I was a motorcyclist and the risk of an accident due to the potholes, ridges and gullies.  The road was repaired quite quickly despite the fact I never received a reply. Was this just an ugly coincidence?
Dont know but would suspect probably.

The point you have raised does make you wonder what premiums HCC have to pay when you look at the risk the insurers are exposing themselves to.

 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2014, 01:45:25 pm »
Seriously are Herts Highways having a laugh?

They've now re-surfaced the whole road - except the bit that actually needed doing!

 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2014, 05:00:51 pm »
Anyone got any pictures to share here so that we can see what's been missed?
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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2014, 05:41:49 pm »
Anyone got any pictures to share here so that we can see what's been missed?

I haven't got any pictures David but basically they've re-surfaced the whole road from the junction with Hawkshead Road down to the vet college.

The bottom part of the road from Warrengate up to the vet college hasn't been touched and it's this bottom part (from the bridge up the hill to where the road widens) where the surface has completely disintegrated.

It's getting worse on an almost daily basis and has been for the last 6 months. Absolutely beggars belief that they've decided to leave the worst bit alone.

I can only assume that they are more concerned with providing good access to the RVC than about drivers who use the other end of the road.
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2014, 06:39:23 pm »
Having just checked HCC website, I note there are 2 recent reports submitted regarding the potholes.  Current status is they are ready for assessment, whatever that may mean.  I have just sent them an email, requesting an explanation why only the top half of the road was dressed last week and when they propose to repair rather than patch the bottom half of the road!

Let's see how long they take to reply!  Well according to their auto-response email, the SLA is 10 working days  ???
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2014, 06:46:06 pm »
If anyone is able to take a picture, and upload it here, this thread and the pic can be tweeted and we can copy in the @Herts_Highways twitter account. That usually gets a response.  ;)

They are fairly active on Twitter.

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2014, 12:46:08 am »
Well I have a reply, see below.  Needless to say I have suggested they undertake an urgent inspection and additionally requested details of their insurers.  Let's see how long it takes for a response


The surface dressing has been completed as per instruction. The section that you refer too was not down to be done, as this was surfaced dressed a few years ago. This is down on the forward programme to be resurface in around Two years time.

Regards,
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Hawkshead Lane was closed last week for road redressing with grit (work
ref FM072SD-CWY14891).  It would appear that they closed the road for 1
day only on Thurs 12 June and I like many other local residents are
extremely confused why only the top half from Potters Bar end to the RVC
was worked on.  The remainder of the road (bottom half past the RVC down
to the bridge at Warrengate Road was left untouched, when arguably this
was the section of road needing the most attention.  The hardship winter
weather has caused vast areas of the road to become, crazed and uneven
with many potholes throughout the length.  I am surprised that the only 2
report I can find are recent ones (ref 201006205260 &201006216378).  I am
amazed why a full survey of the road was not completed to assess the work
required on the whole road.  This appears to be such a waste of money. Can
you let me know when the bottom length of road I refer to will be repaired
properly.
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2014, 02:31:29 pm »
BOB FM (a Herts, Beds & Bucks local radio station on 106.7- 106.9 FM for those not familiar with it) were doing a feature this morning on the state of the counties roads. I managed to get the state of Hawkshead Lane mentioned on air so hopefully someone from Herts Highways was listening.

Have also taken some photos this morning, David could you tweet these to Herts Highways please?















 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2014, 06:52:13 pm »
Have also taken some photos this morning, David could you tweet these to Herts Highways please?

Good pics. Tweet sent.

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2014, 05:16:17 pm »
BOB FM (a Herts, Beds & Bucks local radio station on 106.7- 106.9 FM for those not familiar with it) were doing a feature this morning on the state of the counties roads. I managed to get the state of Hawkshead Lane mentioned on air so hopefully someone from Herts Highways was listening.

Have also taken some photos this morning, David could you tweet these to Herts Highways please?

Well done for highlighting this, I see they are to resurface Greyhound lane in South Mimms when there is clearly nothing wrong with the road, how can this be appropriate use of public funds.


Edited to remove duplication of photos
« Last Edit: June 22, 2014, 06:44:11 pm by Angel »
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2014, 08:13:40 pm »
Bulls Lane in Welham Green has been completely resurfaced when it was worn in some places but perfectly good in others.  Around the corner, Holloways Lane is in a very bad state.
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2014, 04:12:49 pm »
Seriously are Herts Highways having a laugh?

They've now re-surfaced the whole road - except the bit that actually needed doing!

At least the majority of the nasty yellow lines that were applied recently have been obliterated by the resurfacing.
 
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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2014, 09:03:40 am »
Seriously are Herts Highways having a laugh?

They've now re-surfaced the whole road - except the bit that actually needed doing!

At least the majority of the nasty yellow lines that were applied recently have been obliterated by the resurfacing.

Another waste of money, why paint them and then re-surface over the top? When they did Hawkshead Road through Little Heath they deliberately left the bit in the middle so they wouldn't have to re-paint the lines.

Don't have a problem with the double yellow lines in Hawkshead Lane personally, at least it stops vet college students from parking on the pavement and causing an obstruction. The road was downright dangerous until the parking issue was resolved.
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2014, 10:24:57 am »
Have also taken some photos this morning, David could you tweet these to Herts Highways please?

Good pics. Tweet sent.



Any reply from Herts Highways yet David?
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2014, 10:45:01 am »
fixmystreet.com is a good site for reporting stuff.

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2014, 11:45:27 am »
fixmystreet.com is a good site for reporting stuff.

bp

Reported it on fixmystreet 17 weeks ago!!!
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2014, 05:20:24 pm »
I noticed on my way home that someone (presumably the council) has filled two of the potholes on Hawkshead Lane today.

The one in my third picture (above) has been done and one other one further up. Presumably they've done what they consider to be the worst ones before someone damages their car and puts in a claim against them?

At least they've had a look but that doesn't alter the fact that the rest of the road is still a shambles.
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2014, 01:05:59 pm »
This road is an absolute disgrace. It has caused damage to my car too without any doubt. The problem of course is proving it.
What I dont understand is that highways have spent money on the first part of the lane and even painted nice white lines on it but stopped at a definative point and neglected the rest ..!!  Why ?? It is still a major hazzard to cyclist and motorcyclists alike as well as to pedestrians.... Lets hope any future claim is not for aything life changing..
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2014, 09:17:21 am »
I see over the last few days they've re-painted the white lines and the double yellow lines all the way down to the RVC from Hawkshead Road.

Still not bothered fixing the part of the road that urgently needs repairing though  ::)
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2014, 05:37:03 pm »
I'm thinking of starting a campaign to bring the start of the Tour de France to Brookmans Park. That seems to be the only way to get the roads fixed.
 

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Re: Hawkshead Lane pothole repair
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2014, 01:27:41 pm »
Having watched it (the Tour) through Epping yesterday I can vouch for the fact that there was a pothole in the centre of the road (Epping High Street) waiting to catch any unsuspecting cyclist. Luckily they all avoided it by being strung out along one side of the road. So - no guarantee that councils will repair roads even for a major international event.
 

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