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Offline Johnny Redd

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #270 on: March 18, 2010, 04:33:28 pm »
Very useful site and just goes to prove how bad our service is. There are some superfast speeds in Welham Green but I guess their on cable.
What's your speeds like sasquatch???
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #271 on: March 18, 2010, 07:47:04 pm »
My modem is syncing at 2384kbps up, and 448kbps down. Actual data rates will be somewhat below this but I believe this speed is pretty typical at the Peplins end of the village.

Although it's true that cable can provide a much faster connection it can actually be the case it's slower at peak times due to the way the bandwidth is shared. I've heard quite a few people complain about the speed of their '10meg' Virgin cable connection !

 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #272 on: March 18, 2010, 08:50:25 pm »
Just out of interest, did you suffer a comms blackout when the copper cable was stolen along the A1000 last year?
It's just that I understand the upside for the unfortunates who did was much faster broadband due to the new generation cable.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #273 on: March 18, 2010, 09:23:03 pm »
4.2 download...0.4 upload

mimms drive area

cant be bad i guess

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #274 on: March 18, 2010, 09:26:49 pm »
 :-X
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #275 on: March 18, 2010, 10:16:38 pm »
Just out of interest, did you suffer a comms blackout when the copper cable was stolen along the A1000 last year?
It's just that I understand the upside for the unfortunates who did was much faster broadband due to the new generation cable.

I'm pretty sure we lost phone and broadband for a few days
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #276 on: April 07, 2010, 07:57:50 am »
My Sky broadband is droppingout a lot and I just wondered if anyone else has the same issues or it is something to do with my connection only.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #277 on: April 07, 2010, 11:07:50 am »
Mine is OK at Swanley Bar Lane, but I have had a deliberately computerless Easter so I cannot say what the connection might have been in those days.

When I first had Sky broadband it dropped out regularly but it has been OK for some time now.

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #278 on: April 08, 2010, 07:46:21 am »
Hi Saffie,  We had constant problems with our connection to broadband a year ago.   We were told that we were a fair distance along the line from the box and that the usual reason for losing the connection was that other suppliers would supply to customers nearer to the box on the line we were on and that as each new customer was added the signal we received became weaker.   We have now resorted to using dongles.   There is a way that you can check the signal you are receiving, if the problem continues it might be worth checking with your supplier.   Unfortunately they are all prepared to take our money regardless of the quality of the service we are receiving.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #279 on: July 15, 2010, 10:09:22 pm »
If, like me, you are suffering a pathetic 0.9Mb BT broadband, perhaps it worth considering what they have done in Rutland where the a village has put together an affordable scheme to set up their own broadband supply company.
The following is copied from an article on the BBC news website (technology) today.
 
"A UK village which raised £37,000 to offer 200 homes the super-fast broadband that BT could not deliver has launched its network.
Rutland Telecom will offer the residents of Lyddington speeds of up to 40Mbps (megabits per second).
Other telecom firms had said it was not economical to provide fast services to the village.
Getting fast broadband to rural areas is back in the spotlight as the government shelves its funding plans.
It is estimated that around 2.5 million homes in the UK cannot get broadband speeds of more than 2Mbps.
The Rutland Telecom scheme was a joint effort between villagers fed up with slow broadband speeds and a local ICT firm that was reselling BT's broadband.


They discovered that there was nothing to stop them becoming a telco.

"We found that any company could do, on a smaller scale, what Carphone Warehouse has done and take over BT's network," said Dr David Lewis, managing director of Rutland Telecom.

Perhaps this is one for Sasquatch to lead on, and I for one , will follow.
The link to the BBC item is: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8618507.stm
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #280 on: July 16, 2010, 08:03:12 am »
At a price of 185 pounds per person they have got a good deal. I assume the more the lower the cost !!

Could be worth the effort if enough people were interested [I for one would certainly be]

Anyone concur ?

 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #281 on: July 16, 2010, 08:16:50 am »
I'm up for it
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #282 on: July 16, 2010, 08:53:11 am »
Dear All

there is some funding approved for rural broadband. Details are available on http://www.eeda.org.uk/broadbandgrants/

Please note that grants will be considered for between £10,000 and £250,000 therefore only an absolute maximum of 50 applications will be funded. Note also that expressions of interest must be received by 13th September 2010.

 

The press release from East of England Development Authority:-

 

“Rural communities across the East of England could be enjoying access to super-fast broadband for the very first time thanks to new funding announced today.

The East of England Development Agency (EEDA) has secured £0.5m through the Regional Development Programme for England (RDPE) to help plug some of the gaps in rural broadband availability.

Local authorities, businesses, social enterprises and charities can all bid for a share of the funding to support community broadband projects. That could be to upgrade existing infrastructure to exceed 2Mbit/sec, or to install new hardware needed to adopt next-generation broadband with speeds of up to 50Mbit/s.



Deborah Cadman, chief executive of EEDA, said: ’The East of England is in real danger of being left in the internet slow lane. Commercial providers overlook us because the return on their investment in rural parts of our region is smaller than in urban areas. Yet the importance of access for us all has never been greater. EEDA’s funding will help to bring some of our rural areas out of broadband “not spots”, giving them access to internet speeds they will have never experienced before.’

David Burch, East of England policy manager for the Federation of Small Businesses, said: ’We welcome the money that EEDA has secured through the RDPE programme. We would encourage business owners to be at the forefront of any bids for funding in their locality.”

Is anyone else interested in working together to submit an application for this?


 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #283 on: July 16, 2010, 09:10:30 am »
I think the first step would be to establish :

a) what speeds people are currently getting

and

b) whether people would be willing to pay more to change service and suffer the inevitable disruption of changing ISP

I get around 2.5Mb in Peplins Way which is just about adequate and don't have any great desire to move ISP

What do others think ?

A proper survey would need to be undertaken as well as to establish whether Virgin Media (or anyone else) have plans to cable the area, or indeed whether BT have plans to upgrade the infrastructure in the near future.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #284 on: July 16, 2010, 09:49:20 am »
Question (possibly too early to answer it) -

How far could this proposed link reach ? ie would the "footprint" include all of Brookmans Park, Welham Green, Little Heath and the intervening but isolated housing ?

My family tell me their Virgin gets about 5.00 Mb - so megaspeeds far in excess would be ideal.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #285 on: July 16, 2010, 11:33:26 am »
My family tell me their Virgin gets about 5.00 Mb - so megaspeeds far in excess would be ideal.

You don't say where your family home is - however if such speeds are available it doesn't sound like there would be much of a market for a new local ISP to exploit.

The original article suggests that a local ISP can 'unbundle' lines from BT. This is already available on the Potters Bar exchange, Be offer unbundled services although whether that would result in anything faster than BT (or a reseller) could offer I don't know.

I'm pretty sure that BT have committed to upgrading broadband across the country so hopefully it'll get to us eventually.

Brookmans Park is hardly a small isolated village and I don't know anyone who can't get any service at all - possibly a different scenario to the one described in Rutland.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #286 on: July 16, 2010, 11:41:51 am »
Virgin has a cable service in Welham Green.  I believe it was not extended to BP because of problems with getting the link via the railway bridge (now being replaced) and the unadopted status of the main access roads from the A1000 (Georges Wood Rd, Mymms Drive, Brookmans Ave.  I think there was also a problem about linking with the Poettrs Bar cable system but memory fails me as to what it was.

Although speeds are slow in BP and Welham Green, poor old Essendon is in the broadband wilderness.

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #287 on: July 16, 2010, 02:34:06 pm »
Maybe we should be looking a bit more laterally at this.   Instead of thinking whether we as consumers would want to switch from our existing providers, perhaps we should be looking at whether faster broadband could help stimulate new businesses and employment in the village centre.  Currently there is a "brain drain" onto corwded trains into London each day from BP, but how many people would rather setup their own business closer to home?
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #288 on: July 16, 2010, 02:59:24 pm »
Brainstorming only but - you could also consider :
(a) What the overall cost of set up would be and divide by numbers of people interested - if acceptable then each contributes that amount even if considered a little high upfront.
(b) Get hold of whatever grants are available
(c) those afterwards who wish to be connected would be charged a commercial / competitive equivalent, and these amounts would go into a separate fund.
(d) at the end of the year, this accumulated pot would be divided up between the initial contributors in order to have refunded some of their initial set up costs.
Might even make a profit !! :D
 

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« Reply #289 on: July 16, 2010, 05:12:59 pm »
Might even make a profit !! :D

Or alternatively, any "profits" made could be donated to a democratically chosen Charity year after year !!
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #290 on: July 16, 2010, 09:40:06 pm »
Have found this site not sure if it helps:

http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/

I got the following result and am in Oaklands Av:

Download Speed = 1764 kbps (221kB/s)

Upload Speed = 458 kbps (57.3kB/s)

 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #291 on: July 16, 2010, 10:19:12 pm »
984/617, a bit like my blood pressure after reading the Daily Mail.  ;)
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #292 on: July 17, 2010, 06:13:46 am »
 ???

6.12 AM SATURDAY!

Download 1392
Upload 878

Pathetic isn't it!
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #293 on: July 17, 2010, 09:38:42 am »
???

6.12 AM SATURDAY!

Download 1392
Upload 878

Pathetic isn't it!

09:37 Saturday using http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/ I get..

Download =  3,399 kbps
Upload = 725 kbps

Bottom end of Moffats Lane
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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #294 on: July 17, 2010, 11:07:10 am »
???

6.12 AM SATURDAY!

Download 1392
Upload 878

Pathetic isn't it!

Your lucky!

Down here in sunny Water End

Download 485
Upload 574

We are right at the end of the line (literally) from Potters Bar exchange.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2010, 06:36:23 pm by epiphany »
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #295 on: July 17, 2010, 11:33:26 am »
11.30am up here in not-so-sunny Welham Green

Download 1984

Upload  381

The download doesn't compare too badly, but the upload is the lowest.  I wonder if that has anything to do with the power of your pc?
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #296 on: July 17, 2010, 11:54:55 am »
I got the following speeds
Download - 2549kbps
Upload - 724 kbps

We live in Peplins near the link road.   Perhaps some enterprising person could map the different speeds reported to build up a picture of the variation locally?

 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #297 on: July 17, 2010, 02:45:37 pm »
If you run the test at
http://top10.com/broadband/speedtest
You can put in your postcode and add it to a map.

I ran it

http://top10.com/broadband/speedtest/#products=postcode%3Dal9%2B7ah%26advanced%3D1
Give it a go.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #298 on: July 18, 2010, 07:06:04 am »
Ran the "Top 10" website, got 5.7Mb download and 0.2 upload.

Then ran Broadband speed checker, got 6.3Mb download and 0.4 upload.

http://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk/

Then ran Thinkbroadband.com, got 5.8Mb download and 0.7 upload.

The 3 tests were run within 10 minutes this morning.

Which one is the most accurate?  I am now "confused.com" ???

 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #299 on: July 18, 2010, 11:55:06 am »
High noon GW Road. 2866 down and 331 up.
Maybe we should all do this at the same agreed time one week and then map the results.
I'm thinking house prices here!
 

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