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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #480 on: May 20, 2013, 12:20:21 pm »
Sadly they do not offer static IP addresses to home users and my job requires one, and the business bundle doesn't look like good value. I'll just have to stick to twisted fibre for now :(
 

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« Reply #481 on: May 20, 2013, 03:33:24 pm »
Zen admittedly are a bit more pricey than BT, but they do offer static IP addresses with all their products if that is important to you..
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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #482 on: May 20, 2013, 03:53:51 pm »
Pretty sure Plusnet offer static addresses - I've had a static address ever since I've been with them, probably 7 or 8 years now.

When I last looked their fibre broadband prices looked pretty competetive - just unfortunately not available in Peplins Way yet :-(
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #483 on: May 20, 2013, 06:30:59 pm »
We are in Bluebridge Road (near Bluebridge Ave) and have Plusnet Unlimited Fibre. Just checked our speeds (via wifi):


We have been with Plusnet for many years and are very happy with their service. And we do have a static IP-address.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #484 on: May 20, 2013, 07:23:59 pm »
That's impressive. Just done mine with speedtest (BT Infinity Option 2) via my wifi connection.

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #485 on: May 20, 2013, 09:36:45 pm »
Just got BT Infinity today and was running at 27.2mbps when he tested it earlier.

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #486 on: June 09, 2013, 11:20:39 am »
I would be grateful for any advice from all you technically able people.   I am not technical at all.

I am shortly returning to Welham Green (Dixons Hill Road to the west near the Welham Manor and Knolles Crescent junctions) after an absence of 14 years.  Before I left I had NTL cable television, a BT landline, a Vodaphone mobile (which I still have) but no internet connection.

I was thinking of signing up to the Virgin Media cable package of broadband, TV, landline and, possibly, mobile.     My brother has this in Bedfordshire and it appears to work well.   Does anyone on here have experience of it locally.

It appears that BT Infinity will not be there until March 2014. 

Is there anything else I should be looking at?   Do not really need anything too super-duper as it will only be for personal use (retirement looms, so no need to connect to work :-))

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #487 on: June 09, 2013, 03:06:27 pm »
we are on high speed non cable internet here in BP and I would go for cable over that every time.

Cable is generally more stable and faster as it is a newer infrastructure and the cable run is the same quality all the way to the provider

High speed non cable internet (non cable down bt lines) is ok up to the street box but can suffer degradation as it then joins to your house phone line which commonly is older single core copper or aluminium strand and so inferior for carrying packet data.

Think of it as a big bore sewer pipe with good flow being joined to an old hose pipe-result-smaller bore so slower flow

Friend of mine in Welham green has cable with no complaints.

see this link for more information

http://www.cable.co.uk/guides/bt-infinity-vs-virgin-media-broadband/

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #488 on: June 09, 2013, 04:41:25 pm »
Had sky fibre installed last week which is basically BT infinity and greeting downloads of 24mbps which is great, but at least once a day this drops to under 1mbps, getting no help from sky, they say speed down line fine is something to do with wifi in the house, does anyone else experience this I have none of the things which are suppose to throw it off - thick walls, fish tanks etc so can't see what the issue is.  Any help would be appreciated.

Could the satellite park disturb the wifi signal???

 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #489 on: June 10, 2013, 11:18:07 am »
Many thanks BrookyP.   Interesting information in the link.  I think I will go with Virgin Media.

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #490 on: June 10, 2013, 11:25:44 am »
Had sky fibre installed last week which is basically BT infinity and greeting downloads of 24mbps which is great, but at least once a day this drops to under 1mbps, getting no help from sky, they say speed down line fine is something to do with wifi in the house, does anyone else experience this I have none of the things which are suppose to throw it off - thick walls, fish tanks etc so can't see what the issue is.  Any help would be appreciated.

Could the satellite park disturb the wifi signal???

You need to determine whether it's the wifi connection or the internet connection itself that drops to 1Mb.

If possible have at least one PC connected with a cable to the router and see what the performance is like when you are having issues. If the wired connection is OK then you can say it's definitely the wifi that is the issue and Sky cannot really do anything about that.

If it's definitely the Wifi I'd suggest moving the router to a different location if possible to see if that makes any difference. Also try changing the channel number if your router lets you as this can often overcome interference problems.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #491 on: June 10, 2013, 06:44:26 pm »
I have had problems with wifi since day 1. It is not really considered a professional standard and is subject to many fluctuations regardless of what the adverts say.

Its ok for emails and gereral internet searches but you really need a more stable network for streaming Films etc.

2 options.

Install 200mbs powerline network points.

http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-av-index.htm

These boxes, which plug into the mains sockets, use the internal copper in the house to carry the internet signal to and from the router and are pretty good. You will notice a speed decrease from your standard average (due to interferance in the copper circuit-think of it as a big aerial) but it will be rock stable and wont drop out.

The best option is to install a cat 5 cable from your router to PC and this should fix your issue.

 http://www.cablemonkey.co.uk/acatalog/cat5e_Booted_Patch_Leads.html?gclid=CK2ztfCG2rcCFWLHtAoddCYAEA

You can get cat 6 gigabit cable (many people will say you need one) but you wont need this at the transfer rates you are getting.

Usually the lengths of cat 5 needed along with the layouts of houses make cat 5 cabling a bit of a pain in the ar#e so power line is a workable alternative.

I have powerline here and stream buffer free HD iplayer/blinkbox/BT Vision on an average of 10 to 15mbs. A cat 5 cable jumps that speed up to 25mbs but I am only going to do that on the "critical" work PC to get rock solid  FTP file transfer.

Rule of thumb-wireless is for non critical stuff-wired is for critical stuff.

You can stream on wireless but expect buffering and general issues.

If you still get drop outs then its the provider or your router or the external line to the house (usually single core aluminium or copper strand which is woefully inadequate for todays high speed applications and the stability they demand) As an example of how bad cable affects speeds I get 80mbs at the junction box in the street (calder) and this drops to 25mbs by time it gets too the house via the old copper lines.

Sadly BT wont run fibre to most houses as it is far too expensive. Just holding out for the day google fibre is rolled out acroos the UK. Expect speeds of 1000mbs if this happens-probably not for another 10 years if at all :-\

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #492 on: July 20, 2013, 01:49:24 pm »
It seems that Peplins Way might now be able to get fibre - ie BT Infinity.

Has anyone else got Infinity or other fibre broadband in Peplins yet ?

I was told a while ago it wouldn't be available until March 2014 but an Openreach engineer said it was available now  (waiting confirmation of this from him) and also both the BT and PlusNet websites say it's available.

Will definitely consider this if it is available. The estimate is 15Mb down and 2.3Mb up which is huge increase over ADSL.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #493 on: July 20, 2013, 03:31:44 pm »
I wouldn't count on getting those speeds. I know elsewhere in the village does better but in the village centre i am getting about 9 down and 0.6 up through fibre at the moment. Openreach have been out to me twice now, but cannot work out why it is not going any faster - I'm strongly considering downgrading back to broadband as it's just not worth paying the extra money for the speed increase....

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #494 on: July 20, 2013, 03:48:05 pm »
Any idea how far you are from the cabinet ?

My understanding is that with fibre you'll get maximum speed if next to the cabinet and progressively slower as you get further away from it.

It would be interesting to know which cabinet I would be served from in Peplins Way
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #495 on: July 22, 2013, 10:34:57 am »
Spoke to BT Openreach engineer and he has confirmed Infinity available for me in Peplins.

Predicted speed 15.1 up and 3.3 down

Cabinet is in Mymms so the copper part of the circuit still quite long, hence why the predicted speed is not as high as I might have expected. Still a big improvement over regular ADSL so I think I'll go for it.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #496 on: July 22, 2013, 10:37:37 am »
I paid for Infinity Option 2 unlimited with speeds up to 76 mb.  I get about 16 mb.  The connection drops about three times a day, usually at a time when I am doing something important connected with my professional work. I am calling them today to have a chat.
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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #497 on: July 22, 2013, 11:10:09 am »
I am calling them today to have a chat.

Good luck with that - LOL!
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #498 on: July 22, 2013, 11:42:15 am »
To be fair, I have found the BT guys very helpful.

The problem is that the wiring in BP is old and unreliable.

Just a shame that VM is not available in BP as that is fibre to the premises I believe rather than just a cabinet which could be a mile away.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #499 on: July 22, 2013, 09:29:46 pm »
Hi,

I go with Infinity 2 on weds and would be interested in any feedback re speed that David is having issues with?

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #500 on: July 22, 2013, 09:41:51 pm »
Hi,

I go with Infinity 2 on weds and would be interested in any feedback re speed that David is having issues with?

cheers

When I queried why, after they had tested my line, they were still happy to sell me Infinity 2 with 76 mb when I can get less than 20 mb most days and as low as 13 mb some days, they said that it would be much slower than that with Infinity 1.

So that's okay then.

I have decided to stay with Infinity 2 because it's such a faff changing anything with BT. If you do they change your contract dates, mess up the order number, cancel elements, cut you off, you spend hours on the phone trying to get connected again, get sent round the houses, transferred, wait, listen to Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, and then get cut off - and that's on a BT phone line, too.

So, to prepare you, here is a taster of what you are in for.  The video starts with the call centre staff turning up for work.



No, I am going to stick with Infinity 2, even if the router drops out three times a day.

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #501 on: July 30, 2013, 02:31:09 pm »
I have now been told that my speed (currently about 8 down and 0.6 up) will never improve due to the fact that the cabling used is aluminium rather than copper between the 'box' (located at the end of Bluebridge Road by the junction with Hawkshead Road) and my house. I have therefore decided to cancel my fibre contract and go back down to ADSL.

A word of warning - the estimate on BT's site was that I would get 20 down and 5 up. If you are thinking about upgrading to FTTC there is no guarantee you will get the speeds advertised so I would read the cancellation small print very carefully!

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« Reply #502 on: August 07, 2013, 04:55:03 pm »
I have now returned to 'normal' broadband and am enjoying higher uploading speeds than I had under Fibre. Make of that what you will!
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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #503 on: October 02, 2013, 11:28:32 am »
I came across this while looking for something else.  Is it relevant to this old topic?

http://projects.ruralbroadband.com/parish/26UL006
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #504 on: January 27, 2014, 02:48:03 pm »
Just got Fibre in the middle of Calder, 70 Mbps Download 17Mbps Upload. Forgot to ask which cabinet I am attached to.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #505 on: January 27, 2014, 05:58:19 pm »
Been on FTTC for a year now in Shrublands, getting 23Mbps down and 6Mbps up.
 

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #506 on: January 27, 2014, 09:21:14 pm »
Have upgraded to fibre but so far no better than standard ADSL, about 3.5M down. Seems there's a restriction somewhere with line limited to 4Mb. PlusNet currently investigating so hope it will be nearer to the estimated 12Mb I was quoted.

Shame there doesn't appear to be a cabinet nearer to the village than Mymms drive. Surely this needs to be addressed by BT ?
 

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« Reply #507 on: January 29, 2014, 02:12:13 am »
Hmm...  That disappointing Sasquartch. 

I've never been able to find a map of of where BT have their cabinets installed but if there are a pair side by side then there is, or will be, FTTC.  I'm < 100 cable meters from the Mymms/Calder cabinet (LNPOT/P1 according to http://fttc-check.alc.im) with 74Mbps downlink and 16 Mbps uplink on BT Infinity 2.

There are a couple of graphs on one of the BT forums that show downlink speeds of VDSL2 (FTTC Infinity 2) as a function of distance if that is useful for anyone.  Take a look here https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Infinity-Speed-Connection/Do-I-Upgrade-or-not-to-BT-Infinity/td-p/1046030
 

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« Reply #508 on: January 29, 2014, 09:46:37 am »
Sasquartch

Are you not connected like me in the village centre to the cabinet near the RVC? If so, that would explain the dire connection speed! As I've said further up the thread, I've actually gone back to 'normal' broadband as it was faster. However, now I have a 4G compatible phone I am investigating getting a mains powered MIFI unit and using that as the 4G speed I can get is about 10 times faster than the wired broadband. It will cost me more on the mobile phone bill to get a decent download allowance each month, but this would be offset by removing the cost of home broadband (and potentially my home phone number as well as the only people who seem to use that are trying to sell me PPI!)

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Re: Village broadband and high-speed optic fibre
« Reply #509 on: January 29, 2014, 10:48:40 am »
Hi James

The engineer (from Kelly, working on behalf of Openreach) said the cabinet was up on Mymms - however he was from Milton Keynes and said he didn't know the area at all so perhaps he was mistaken.

Either way it looks like some sort of restriction on the line - it was originally 4Mb but now the line is reported as 10Mb, still short of the 15Mb it's supposed to run at to deliver the estimated 12Mb connection. So I'm hoping it's just a configuration issue rather than anything else.

Our 4Mb-ish connection does seem to be completely solid which was more than you could say about the old ADSL on the same line - if the speed can be boosted up to 12Mb I'll be happy.

It seems odd that BT don't have a cabionet in the village centre, would make much more sense, and surely there is a demand from the businesses in the village ?
 

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