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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1110 on: January 26, 2015, 02:43:19 pm »
The consultation on WHBC's Local Plan will run from Friday 23rd January and closes on 19th March. There will be a WHBC consultation event on Wednesday 4th February 3.30pm - 7.30pm at the United Reformed Church in BP.

Link to the whole:    http://www.welhat.gov.uk/localplan

Specific BP housing:              http://consult.welhat.gov.uk/portal/planning_policy/local_plan_consultation_january_2015/local_plan_consultation_january_2015?pointId=1421325221870#section-1421325221870

Consultation portal:  http://consult.welhat.gov.uk/portal


Further to the above, the various organisations covering North Mymms are in the process of combing through the consultation document and some will make recommendations to residents on how to respond to the consultation. The NMPC met last week, but we do not have a view from them yet, the NMDGBS meets tonight and we, the BPRA development committee are meeting tomorrow night, when hopefully we will have had a view from the NMDGBS.

If anyone wishes to email the BPRA, we are on brookmansparkresidentsassoc@gmail.com
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1111 on: January 26, 2015, 06:05:56 pm »
Some good news. After we wrote to the council  asking for a session specifically  for Little Heath  residentsthey have confirmed the following



You will be pleased to hear we have now organised an additional drop in event to take place at Little Heath Parish Hall on Friday 6th March from 3:30pm to 7:30pm.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1112 on: January 26, 2015, 08:05:46 pm »
Well done leader.
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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1113 on: January 28, 2015, 10:26:58 am »
Further evidence in today's edition of Welwyn Hatfield Times of the concern about losing Green Belt.  Also an endorsement from Grant Shapps about keeping the Green Belt
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1114 on: January 28, 2015, 10:40:15 am »
Here is an update following the NMDGBS meeting on Monday night and the BPRA meeting last night.

The NMDGBS is preparing a defence of all Green Belt sites within North Mymms - the 'more favourable', the 'finely balanced' and the 'less favourable'. Although it is only the 'more favourable' sites in the public consultation, the other two categories still appear in the appendix.

The NMDGBS will then issue a map for each village, showing all sites, and giving a list of valid objections to development in each site, for residents to use in their responses to the consultation.

The BPRA will provide a list of more 'local' issues that we consider to be of importance for specific sites (eg some residents in The Gardens backing BrP6 have had trouble negotiating household insurance because of localised flooding).

Both the above should be completed in the next 2 weeks, the BPRA will then add our list to the NMDGBS list, and there will be a door-to-door leaflet drop with residents able to 'pick and choose' what to put in their letters.

The BPRA is also planning a 'drop-in' day in early March, in the village centre, where residents can come for advice and help on drafting responses by letter or on the WHBC consultation portal. More detail as soon as we have it.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1115 on: January 28, 2015, 12:18:41 pm »
Further evidence in today's edition of Welwyn Hatfield Times of poor journalism, sensationalising a story and feeding on people's worries with a headline that does not properly reflect the story.

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Researchers say the city [of London] has returned to its natural growth trend and if the trend were to continue, buy the middle of the century the population [of London] could reach 11 million"

So there's an "if" in there and there's a date of 2050, i.e. it's not about the current plans. Plus there's an assumption that if this happens that the city will expand rather than become more dense.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1116 on: January 28, 2015, 01:55:18 pm »
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I think everyone in the area would agree that the best option would be for no building on the green belt and a new garden city built elsewhere in Hertfordshire. I am concerned however about the proposal just to object to everything.


Welwyn Hatfield Council when I have heard them speak have made it quite clear that if a community refuses to even contemplate the idea of houses being built it will effectively give a freehand for developers to build where they want to, rather than where the community wants them to.


Is the position of BPRA that there should be no building at all under any circumstances therefore playing into the developer's hands? Would it not be better for the village to say something along the lines of 'We absolutely do not want any building in the green belt and ask that alternatives are fully explored, but if it is forced on us, this is the location we would prefer?'


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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1117 on: January 28, 2015, 03:23:57 pm »
Thanks for the update Mermaid , grest stuff!
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1118 on: January 28, 2015, 03:41:02 pm »
I think everyone in the area would agree that the best option would be for no building on the green belt and a new garden city built elsewhere in Hertfordshire. I am concerned however about the proposal just to object to everything.

Is the position of BPRA that there should be no building at all under any circumstances therefore playing into the developer's hands? Would it not be better for the village to say something along the lines of 'We absolutely do not want any building in the green belt and ask that alternatives are fully explored, but if it is forced on us, this is the location we would prefer?'
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I'm not sure where you get the idea that the BPRA's 'position' is that there should be no building under any circumstances. We have never said so. WHBC has made the decision to only consult on the 'more favourable' sites. In the consultation document BP has two 'more favourable' sites - BPHL44 is currently under construction and BrP14 is up for consultation. If residents consider that building on BrP14 is reasonable, then they will be saying so in their responses to the consultation. Our role is to give residents all the information they need to respond to the consultation.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1119 on: January 28, 2015, 06:10:18 pm »
For those not sure what BPHL44 and BrP14 are, here is an article I put together last October setting out the areas being considered.

Where will the new houses be built?
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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1120 on: January 28, 2015, 07:04:29 pm »
As BPHL44 is already under construction should this be included in the discussion.  Also as the site was originally 12 houses, increased to 16, this represents an increase of 4.  BRP14 has a proposed number of 15 houses.  Total 19. 
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1121 on: February 01, 2015, 12:14:03 pm »
We have been working with the North Mymms District Green Belt Society and they have now published an overall letter about the local plan and how to object, a map and key objection points for Little Heath, in the attachments below.
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[/size]The LHAG committee will be meeting to review additional objection points which will be published later.  We encourage everyone concerned to write to Welwyn Hatfield council and attend the specific Little Heath meeting at Little Heath Parish Church hall on 6th March, 2015 between 15.30 hrs and 19.30 hrs.  We have until 19th March to object to the council.


 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1122 on: February 01, 2015, 02:59:29 pm »
A reminder to BP residents that the WHBC 'consultation event' is this Wednesday 4th February 3.30pm - 7.30pm at the Brookmans Park United Reformed Church.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1123 on: February 03, 2015, 10:31:02 am »
Another reminder that the WHBC Local Plan 'consultation event' is tomorrow, Wednesday 4th Feb at the Brookmans Park United Reformed Church from 3.30pm - 7.30pm.

I have emailed WHBC to ask who will be attending from the council and what form the event will take - displays etc.

More detail as I get it.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1124 on: February 03, 2015, 11:19:32 am »
North Mymms District Green Belt Society have now published a letter about the Local Plan and how to comment/object, a map of the More Favourable, Finely Balanced and Less Favourable proposed development sites around Brookmans Park, and a guide to the key relevant planning objection points on a site by site basis. These will be distributed to all households in Brookmans Park over the next few weeks. Please be aware that these designations could change over the course of the coming year as further evidence could be submitted by developers that affect a site's suitability and therefore it is important that any comments you have about any of the proposed sites are made now, before the Public Consultation ends on March 19th 2015.


 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1125 on: February 03, 2015, 01:33:47 pm »
North Mymms District Green Belt Society have now published a letter about the Local Plan and how to comment/object, a map of the More Favourable, Finely Balanced and Less Favourable proposed development sites around Brookmans Park, and a guide to the key relevant planning objection points on a site by site basis. These will be distributed to all households in Brookmans Park over the next few weeks.

Hi Epiphany,

I have uploaded your pdf to the site's server to embed them below to save people clicking through. They can still be downloaded from your links or from the embeds.

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<a href="http://www.brookmans.com/pdfs/18965BrookmansPmap.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.brookmans.com/pdfs/18965BrookmansPmap.pdf</a>

<a href="http://www.brookmans.com/pdfs/43413BrookmansPobjection points.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.brookmans.com/pdfs/43413BrookmansPobjection points.pdf</a>

<a href="http://www.brookmans.com/pdfs/24370Localplancoverletter2.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.brookmans.com/pdfs/24370Localplancoverletter2.pdf</a>
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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1126 on: February 03, 2015, 02:22:33 pm »
Tomorrow's Local Plan drop-in 'Consultation Event' should be interesting and informative, and the BPRA urges everyone who can attend, to do so. The times are from 3.30pm to 7.30pm at the Brookmans Park United Reformed Church.

There will be a team of 5 Welwyn Hatfield Borough Council Principal Planners led by Paul Everard, all of whom will be on hand to answer questions about the Local Plan. They will also explain how best to respond to the consultation, for those who may not be sure.

In the display, there will be 14 - 15 boards giving the context of the Local Plan, the research underpinning it, the evidence for the strategy, the proposed distribution for housing and jobs, the economy, the infrastructure, and the likely impact on the Green Belt.

This is an excellent opportunity to get information direct from the people that have put the Local Plan together!


 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1127 on: February 03, 2015, 05:32:54 pm »
Hi Mermaid,

I have uploaded the pdf to our server and embedded below.

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1128 on: February 04, 2015, 01:39:45 pm »
We're urging all residents to take the chance to meet the team of Principal Planners from WHBC at the Brookmans Park United Reformed Church today between 3.30pm and 7.30pm, at WHBC's Local Plan 'Consultation Event'. All questions about the Local Plan and the public consultation will be warmly welcomed.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1129 on: February 04, 2015, 02:00:13 pm »
Am i missing something-it looks like not much is happening here in BP. 2 small sites?


BP
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1130 on: February 04, 2015, 02:09:16 pm »
Am i missing something-it looks like not much is happening here in BP. 2 small sites?

BP


The consultation also includes all the other sites in BP that were considered and therefore WHBC are inviting residents to comment on the plan as a whole, which could mean residents of WH commenting on areas /sites not just where they live but across the borough.  WH could change their mind on the finely balance/less favourable sites following closure of the public consultation period, based on comments received.  therefore it is important that local BP residents fully understand all the sites that have been considered and voice their own objections to lend weight to keeping them from coming back into the final plan when it is drawn up.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1131 on: February 04, 2015, 02:10:02 pm »
Hi Brooky P


True, but things could change - See NMDGBS Objection Points letter above.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1132 on: February 07, 2015, 02:49:01 pm »
Good afternoon


Just to let you know that the North Mymms District Green Belt Society leaflets are nearly ready and should be distributed during next week.


The Little Heath Action Groups additional information leaflet will be distributed towards the end of February so that you have time to put as much information in your letters to the council as you wish. This will leave you 2 to 3 weeks to beat the Councils  Local Plan consultation deadline date of 19th  March.


You will also have all the information available for the meeting with the council staff at Little Heath Church on 6th March.

 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1133 on: February 11, 2015, 07:51:31 pm »
Am i missing something-it looks like not much is happening here in BP. 2 small sites?
BP
Exactly, your not missing anything but a you're witnessing few nice new homes being built which will stimulate the area's businesses and services
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1134 on: February 12, 2015, 03:30:53 pm »
North Mymms Parish Council is holding two public meetings on the Local Plan at Chancellors School Hall, Pine Grove, Brookmans Park, AL9 7BN on Tuesday 3rd March at 7.30 pm and at North Mymms Memorial Hall, Station Road, Welham Green, AL9 7PG on Thursday 5th March at 8.15 pm.

Everyone is welcome to come to inform the Parish Council of your views on Welwyn Hatfield Local Plan proposals in the parish.

Welwyn Hatfield Borough Council has arranged two extra consultation drop in events on Thursday 5th March 3.30 7.30 pm at North Mymms Memorial Hall and Friday 6th March 3.30 7.30 pm at Little Heath Parish Hall.

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« Reply #1135 on: February 12, 2015, 04:09:13 pm »
We encourage all Little Heath residents to attend on 3rd March to let the Parish know your views.


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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1136 on: February 12, 2015, 06:57:20 pm »
North Mymms Parish Council is holding a [/color]Public Meeting on the Local Plan at Chancellors School Hall Pine Grove, Brookmans Park, AL9 7BN Tuesday 3rd March 2015 at 7.30 p.m.


All Little Heath residents welcome
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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1137 on: February 12, 2015, 09:06:34 pm »
Everyone is welcome to come to inform the Parish Council of your views on Welwyn Hatfield Local Plan proposals in the parish.
May we know what NMPC is thinking of doing with residents' views on WHBC's Local Plan proposals? Are they going to be leading a revolt against the proposals - if that is what residents want - or is it just an attempt to belatedly jump on the bandwagon which the NMDGBS, the BPRA, the WGRA and the LHAG have already been driving for most of the last year?
 

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« Reply #1138 on: February 13, 2015, 09:54:39 am »
Mermaid,
it now looks as though they have come off the wall that they have been sitting on for a long time.
Pity they don't represent us in the right way, proactive and interested?!

Residents Associations are proactive- thank heavens
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« Reply #1139 on: February 13, 2015, 10:18:13 am »
NMPC have been almost completely impotent during the Local Plan Process. They have not attended planning meetings at WHBC and other than one emailed question, have not been a part of the process so far. I have sent messages to Stephen Boulton on several occasions concerning the Local Plan and have not had any acknowledgement or reply.

A big mistake NMPC made was producing a Parish Plan instead of a Neighbourhood Plan which has a legal status and must be taken into consideration by Planning. If a Neighbourhood Plan had been produced then North Mymms would be in much more control over any proposed development in the Green Belt.

Colney Heath Parish Council has produced a Neighbourhood Plan and consequently there is only limited proposed development in the Green Belt around Colney Heath as part of the St Albans Local Plan.

NMPC had the opportunity to produce a Neighbourhood Plan when the consultant who masterminded the Colney Heath Neighbourhood Plan pitched his services to NMPC.

NMPC declined citing lack of resources and finance. If Colney Heath could manage it, why not North Mymms?

Consequently we are now paying the price, with many Green Belt sites, particularly around Welham Green being actively promoted.
 

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