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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #990 on: August 13, 2014, 02:59:47 pm »
Questions are being fed through to our Twitter @BrookmansParkRA

If you do not have Twitter, you can still view the tweets on our website http://www.brookmansparkra.org/
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #991 on: August 13, 2014, 03:32:38 pm »
Let's hope WHC doesn't plan to merge villages as in Waverley. Could someone at Thursday's meeting seek that assurance?  Or should we keep quiet in case it puts ideas into heads?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-28768326

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Four scenarios have been put forward, which would all see houses built on green belt sites in Farnham, Godalming, Cranleigh, Haslemere and some villages. Council papers said a review had recommended four villages were removed from the green belt - Chiddingfold, Elstead, Milford and Witley.

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #992 on: August 14, 2014, 08:14:30 am »
A reminder regarding tonight's meeting at 7.45pm at the Brookmans Park United Reformed Church.

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #993 on: August 14, 2014, 08:26:52 am »
If you are on Twitter and want to follow any tweets about tonight's meeting you can use the hashtag #BPLocalPlan and you will be taken through to the latest stream of tweets using that hashtag. See below.

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #994 on: August 15, 2014, 11:40:05 am »
Great meeting last night with over 100 people attending to hear Councillor John Dean talk about WHBC's Local Plan, following which Cllr Dean and Head of Planning Colin Haigh took questions from the floor.
We will get notes from the meeting up on the BPRA website in the next couple of days, but in the meantime the main points are:
  • The target for new housing in Welwyn Hatfield district over the next 20 years, given to WHBC by central Government is, 17,000 at the moment. WHBC will try to negotiate that figure down, to maybe 12,000, but success is not guaranteed
  • There is room for 3500 dwellings on brownfield, the rest will have to come from Green Belt.
  • The allocation of new housing in each area may be distributed along the lines of current percentage of the whole district.
  • WHBC wants to work actively with local communities to ensure the best outcome for the community.
  • The Local Plan, containing details of which sites WHBC has identified as being suitable for development, will be out to consultation in the Autumn, possibly November.
  • We will have 6 - 8 weeks for consultation.
  • The Local Plan will be published for action in Spring 2015
  • In the consultation period, WHBC will welcome, and be favourably influenced by, a co-ordinated approach by a whole community in respect of which site may be chosen. This approach, based on research amongst residents, will be led in Brookmans Park, on behalf of BP residents, by the Brookmans Park Residents Association.





 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #995 on: August 15, 2014, 06:17:54 pm »
Following the meeting last night, Colin Haigh, Head of Planning at WHBC has emailed the BPRA:

"Thank you for the invite last night. Hopefully you and those who attended found it a useful meeting.

As discussed, if anyone would like to be added to our Welwyn Hatfield Local Plan Consultation database, then please encourage them to send their name, address and email details to:    planningpolicy(at)welhat(dot)gov(dot)uk

As a result of doing so, they will be informed about key stages of the plan process, consultation periods, public events, etc. I am more than happy for this advice and email address to be hosted on your Residents Association website."
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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #996 on: August 18, 2014, 04:16:08 pm »
Councillor John Dean's talk on WHBC's Local Plan is now available in full on the BPRA website:

http://www.brookmansparkra.org/
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #997 on: September 18, 2014, 10:36:51 pm »

12.500 new homes for Welwyn Hatfield 2011-2031

http://www.welhat.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=5817


Local Plan Update Page 15


http://www.welhat.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=9437&p=0


Brookmans Park - 380 dwellings (19 p.a.)


Welham Green - 360 dwellings (18 p.a.)


Little Heath 140 dwellings (7 p.a.)
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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #998 on: September 18, 2014, 11:11:24 pm »
Local Plan Update Page 15
http://www.welhat.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=9432&p=0

Brookmans Park - 380 dwellings (19 p.a.)
Welham Green - 360 dwellings (18 p.a.)
Little Heath 140 dwellings (7 p.a.)

But on the previous page (paragraph 9.11)

'This does not mean that this will be the distribution strategy for the Local Plan but it is useful to understand how the need for housing affects the borough'

So we cannot assume that those figures will be the ones that are finally published.

Cue lots of wild speculation!
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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #999 on: September 26, 2014, 02:31:04 pm »
At yesterdays Council Meeting of the Housing and Planning panel the committee approved the Officer recommendation to adopt a housing need of 12,500 new homes in the Borough to be delivered over the next 20 years.  Much of this development will be on land which is presently Green Belt.  The Council proposes that all existing communities within the Borough should share the burden, with Brookmans Park having a proportional share of approximately 380 new homes.

Stephen Boulton (Councillor for Brookmans Park) specifically requested that all new development on existing Green Belt land should without exception, achieve the Council's requirement for Affordable Housing  (Social Housing).  He insisted that Minutes of the Meeting should record that requirement.

The Council's draft core strategy (Local Plan) from November 2012 (policy CS7 Page 62) requires all new development to provide 25% Affordable Housing in Hatfield, 30% in Welwyn Garden City and 35% in the villages.

If Brookmans Park is required to accept 380 new homes this would include 133 Affordable Homes.  These are not "Affordable Homes" in the sense that young people from Brookmans Park would be able to buy them.  These are homes to meet the demand for Social Housing from the Council's waiting list.

The Council has identified its greatest need for Social Housing in Welwyn Garden City and Hatfield but it proposes the greatest supply in the villages.  This is social engineering by any other name.

The National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF) makes provision (para 50 page 13) for developers to make a financial contribution to the Council for Affordable Housing to be provided where it is needed most.  This is a much more sensible approach than Mr Boulton's proposal to force Social Housing into the villages.

If 35% of all new homes are for Social Housing, only 65% of new homes would be available for sale in the open market.  So the house prices will continue to rise due to lack of supply.  This will not help hard working young people in the Borough to buy a home.

There is a proper debate to be had about the provision of Social Housing.  This can be achieved in a number of ways, as envisages by the NPPF.  Mr Boulton does not seem to want that debate in advance of the Council adopting its proposed planning policies.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1000 on: October 06, 2014, 10:00:26 pm »
I say "Hooray".
Brookmans Park is a very good place for some social housing.
How come we're the only village I've ever seen that doesn't have any council housing?
OK, we are a posh village, but (praise be) we are not the kind of posh village where nobody can survive unless they have a car and a few £million.
The railway station, the sensible shops, the open spaces, the social opportunities for families and kids, the schools. the doctor's surgery - all of these things make the village a very useful place to locate some social housing.
Why talk about this as "a burden"?  Bring it on.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1001 on: October 07, 2014, 10:25:26 pm »
The council has published their updated guidelines of their maps showing areas which could be used for development, along with their justification for which ones are more favourable, finely balanced, or less favourable. You can find the info (as well as information about the public consultation which is coming after Christmas) by visiting this webpage:


http://www.welhat.gov.uk/localplan


The maps of Welham Green, Brookmans Park and Little Heath can be found near the bottom of this file: http://www.welhat.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=9488&p=0


Whilst the council's justification for each area can be found near the bottom of this one: http://www.welhat.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=9487&p=0


The council have also released a press release which reads...


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A report detailing potential sites for new development in Welwyn Hatfield has been published today (Tuesday 7 October).
The report has been prepared ahead of a meeting of Welwyn Hatfield Borough Council's Cabinet Housing and Planning Panel (CHPP) on Wednesday 15 October.  It will be the first in a series of meetings ahead of the publication of a draft Local Plan, the blueprint for future growth in the borough.
The CHPP meetings taking place over the forthcoming weeks will shape the draft document that will be put to Cabinet for approval on 17 December.  The plan will identify areas of land for jobs, housing and retailing, and identify those areas which are important to protect.  Once approved by Cabinet, an extensive eight week consultation will take place with residents, businesses, community groups, other relevant organisations and neighbouring authorities.  That consultation will begin in the New Year.
An independent report released last month indicated that 12,500 is the required number of new homes in Welwyn Hatfield for the period 2011-2031.  That report took into account a range of factors about growth and future need, birth rates and the age of the population, the movement of people in and out of the borough, future investment and the creation of new jobs.  It also looked at the need for additional affordable housing.
The council have agreed to share growth as fairly as possible throughout the borough, not just in and around the two main towns but around the borough's villages too.  This means recommending growth that is proportionate to the size of existing developments, as far as that is possible.
Councillor Roger Trigg, the council's portfolio holder for planning, housing and community, said: "If we want our children and grandchildren to be able to live in the borough in the years ahead, we have to accept that thousands of new homes will be needed.
"But the Local Plan is about more than just homes; it is about planning for growth while maintaining the distinctive character of our borough.  It means providing open space for people to use, and ensuring the necessary infrastructure is in place such as roads and schools.  It is about supporting the healthy future of Welwyn Hatfield, new jobs and a vibrant local economy.
"We are making the most of all the brownfield sites in the borough to provide housing, and are allowing change of use from office to residential, but this still does not provide sufficient space for the necessary growth.  That is why we need to look at assigning land that is currently green belt as suitable for new development.
"We are set to launch a consultation on our proposed sites in January and we really want to hear the views of our communities.  They will help inform the tough decisions that the council will need to make in the months ahead before we make further decisions affecting the future of the whole borough."


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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1002 on: October 07, 2014, 10:33:40 pm »
Looks like the Liberal Democrats are watching this board to get ideas. Build on Britain's golf courses to solve housing crisis, says Vince Cable.
 

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1003 on: October 08, 2014, 09:17:00 am »
The council has published their updated guidelines of their maps showing areas which could be used for development, along with their justification for which ones are more favourable, finely balanced, or less favourable. You can find the info (as well as information about the public consultation which is coming after Christmas) by visiting this webpage: http://www.welhat.gov.uk/localplan
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Hi James, thanks for that, very helpful. I have gone through the various documents and picked out a few of the areas being considered in Brookmans Park, Little Heath and Welham Green (not all). I have copied the maps, the WHC conclusions and created (what I hope is) a more accessible précis of what is under discussion. Please IM me any corrections, typos etc. It should appear below, but if it doesn't show up (on some tablets), here is the link for the piece.

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1004 on: October 08, 2014, 06:38:22 pm »
To avoid confusion -
Today's Welwyn Hatfield Times says that there is a proposal in the new local plan to build homes on the New Barnfield former library site.
This is a mistake. I have told the reporter of his mistake.
The area called "Hatfield 11" is quite close to the New Barnfield site, but it is definitely not the New Barnfield site.
Welwyn Hatfield BC are saying that "Hatfield 11" is "less favourable" for housing than other sites for a quite a number of reasons.

 

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« Reply #1005 on: October 09, 2014, 09:01:10 am »
I have updated the article below to include all the areas being considered for housing in Brookmans Park, Welham Green and Little Heath. The piece includes maps, the council's description of the site and its conclusion as to whether the site is 'less favourable', 'finely balanced', or 'more favourable' for development.

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« Reply #1006 on: October 12, 2014, 10:30:34 am »
WHC has just mailed me the latest on the Local Plan, embedded below. The document includes some important dates for your calendar. I have added them to the site's calendar but apologies for messing up the first post in this thread when I started updating the events listing. Sorry.

<a href="http://www.brookmans.com/pdfs/93331Local%20Plan%20Newsletter%20October%202014%20Issue%205.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.brookmans.com/pdfs/93331Local%20Plan%20Newsletter%20October%202014%20Issue%205.pdf</a>
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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1007 on: October 14, 2014, 07:09:45 pm »
On Monday, 6 October, the DCLG published new guidance “underlining the government’s commitment to protect the green belt from development”. 
The documents can be accessed from links at https://www.gov.uk/government/news/councils-must-protect-our-precious-green-belt-land
“The guidance explains that, once established, green belt boundaries should only be altered in exceptional cases, through the preparation or review of the Local Plan.
It also states that housing need - including for traveller sites - does not justify the harm done to the green belt by inappropriate development."
 

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« Reply #1008 on: October 15, 2014, 07:08:06 am »
Thanks for posting this Ex Libris. I have tweeted (see below) your post and asked the DCLG @CommunitiesUK and the Campaign to Protect Rural England @CPRE whether these guidelines have any bearing on what happens in Welwyn Hatfield @WelHatCouncil.

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« Reply #1009 on: October 16, 2014, 02:39:21 pm »
The BPRA development committee has called for as many members as possible to attend the Welhat Cabinet for Housing and Planning Panel meeting next week:

http://www.brookmansparkra.org/2014/10/bpra-calls-for-members-to-attend-welhat.html
 

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« Reply #1010 on: October 17, 2014, 07:40:08 am »
The BPRA development committee has called for as many members as possible to attend the Welhat Cabinet for Housing and Planning Panel meeting next week:

http://www.brookmansparkra.org/2014/10/bpra-calls-for-members-to-attend-welhat.html

For those considering attending the planning panel meeting, it might be worth having another quick look at the brief overview I put together on the local options being considered. Note that the dark black line shows the current green belt boundary and all areas marked in orange outside those black lines are in the green belt.

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Re: Housing, planning, and development in North Mymms
« Reply #1011 on: October 21, 2014, 01:38:03 pm »
There are two meetings this week on this new housing issue:
One on Wednesday 22nd organised by Paul Zukowskyj at the Welham Green Memorial Hall,
The other being the Welhat Cabinet for Housing and Planning Panel meeting on 23rd.
The North Mymms District Green Belt Society would urge all it's members to attend both if possible!
See http://www.greenbeltsociety.org.uk/ for details.


Note: Edited to fix font.
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« Reply #1012 on: October 24, 2014, 11:48:18 am »
An interesting meeting last night of the CHPP Cabinet Housing and Planning Panel) as the SHLAA (Strategic Housing Land Availability Assessment) for each village in Welwyn Hatfield was looked at in turn - Woolmer Green, Oaklands and Mardley Heath, Welwyn, Digswell, Essendon, Welham Green, Brookmans Park, Little Heath, Cuffley and Northaw.

The Cabinet members re-iterated that the "objective assessment of housing need in Welwyn Hatfield" would be 12,500 new dwellings between 2011 and 2031, of which 4,900 have already been built. It was said that "the start point is that development should be distributed proportionately".

Parish Councillors representing the villages spoke of the special 'heart and soul' of village life and the need to protect such 'gems' of the Borough from wholesale development, Councillors representing the main towns of Hatfield and Welwyn Garden City argued the case that the villages had been protected from much development up until now and should now take their share - one Councillor even said that the villages should take more than their share. It was noted that the 'share' for Brookmans Park was 330 new dwellings, but that it would be 625 if the 'favourable sites' and 'finely balanced sites' were added together.


A more detailed report will follow on the BPRA website
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« Reply #1013 on: October 24, 2014, 04:04:44 pm »
ps to the above: Government semantics - we learned last night that regarding building on the Green Belt, there is a distinct difference between 'very special circumstances' which deals with planning applications for small private developments which will nearly always be refused in the Green Belt, and 'exceptional circumstances' which deals with large-scale developments such as those we may be facing, and which allows Councils to make changes to the Green Belt with due process.
 

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« Reply #1014 on: November 12, 2014, 10:58:30 am »
The next meeting of the Welwyn Hatfield Cabinet Housing Planning Panel is tomorrow night, Thursday 13th November 7.30pm in the Cypress Room, Salvation House, 2 Sterling Court, Mundells, Welwyn Garden City, AL7 1FT. This will be to 'Consider further evidence', following the meeting on 23rd October.

Members of the Brookmans Park Residents Association development sub-committee will be attending on behalf of Brookmans Park residents, and would urge anyone else who is interested in the process to join us.

The Agenda and Public Report Pack can be found on the Welhat website: http://www.welhat.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=2333
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« Reply #1015 on: November 17, 2014, 03:48:09 pm »
Members of the BPRA attended the CHPP meeting last week. We, and other interested parties and organisations are only able to attend on a 'listening' basis. This is frustrating when councillors don't 'speak up', and we cannot hear them. However, we have tried to piece together the bits we could hear, and the summary can be found here:

http://www.brookmansparkra.org/2014/11/whbc-cabinet-housing-and-planning-panel.html
 

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« Reply #1016 on: November 17, 2014, 04:36:17 pm »
The BPRA is hosting the second public meeting on WHBC's Local Plan, on Thursday 27th November, at 7.00pm at the Brookmans Park United Reformed Church. Paul Zukowskyj will be updating residents on developments since our last public meeting in August.

The Local Plan will be published for consultation in early January 2015, and Brookmans Park residents will be consulted on specific sites for development in and around the village.

 

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« Reply #1017 on: November 19, 2014, 12:43:09 pm »
I have put a quick poll on here just to see how many people already know what might be heading our way in the Local Plan which will be published for consultation in January 2015. If you cannot tick the last box, you might like to consider attending our meeting next week!
 

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« Reply #1018 on: November 19, 2014, 05:08:59 pm »
I have put a quick poll on here just to see how many people already know what might be heading our way in the Local Plan which will be published for consultation in January 2015. If you cannot tick the last box, you might like to consider attending our meeting next week!

For those who ticked either of the first two options in the poll, here is a piece I put together last month to try to show the areas under consideration at the time.

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« Reply #1019 on: November 21, 2014, 07:35:20 pm »
Posters are now up in the village shops and flyers will be hand-delivered to households this weekend.

We will be making a small charge of £1 on entry to cover costs, but it will be free for current 'paid-up' BPRA members. There will be an opportunity to join the BPRA on the night.

http://www.brookmansparkra.org/2014/11/bpra-public-meeting-on-whbc-local-plan.html

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