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Driving updates, roads and motorways
« on: June 14, 2005, 11:28:53 am »
I was caught in traffic along the A1000 last night for what seemed like hours.
Apparently there had been a crash in the tunnel underneath the Galleria.
Does anyone know anything about this?
 

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2005, 09:40:25 pm »
Its in this week welwyn hatfield times, back page
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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2005, 09:49:42 pm »
Click here for the WHT online version of the news item.

The picture below is a link to the image on the WHT site.

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2005, 10:45:58 am »
Hertfordshire Constabulary has just sent this site a news release on this crash with an appeal for witnesses.

June 16, 2005
DID YOU WITNESS HATFIELD TUNNEL COLLISION?
By Corporate Communication Dept

POLICE are appealing for witnesses after a car hit the crash barrier in the A1M Hatfield Tunnel, causing injury to three people.

The incident occurred at 2.15pm on Monday, June 13 as a blue Ford Fusion travelled Northbound through the tunnel.

For unknown reasons, the Ford Fusion collided with the nearside crash barrier causing extensive damage and injuries to the three occupants, who were all taken to the QEII Hospital, Welwyn Garden City.

The driver, a 58 year old man from Potters Bar, sustained cuts and bruises to his face and chest pains. He has been discharged from hospital.

A 65 year old woman from Potters Bar, sustained suspected fractures to her collar bone, ankle and knee and remains in hospital.

A third man, a 65 year old, also from Potters Bar, sustained a suspected fracture to his right leg, cuts and bruises. He also remains in hospital.

PC Phillip Watts said: “If anyone witnessed this incident or has any information, please could they contact the non emergency number 0845 33 00 222.”

The Hatfield tunnel northbound was closed for approximately 3 1/2 hours whilst emergency services cleared the scene.

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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2005, 01:29:53 am »
Did anyone see the cars involved?? Wow they were mashed!!! My mate got told off for using his camara phone!!!
 

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2005, 05:04:00 pm »
Sorry to break the news to you, but usually when there is a car crash, cars get mashed. Regarding your friend and his camera phone, I'll make a note of that in my pointless information book. Why would he want a picture of that?
However a good site for crashed exotic cars is http://www.wreckedexotics.com/
 

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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2005, 09:22:44 am »
LOL Well i wern't no little knock!!! My mate was achually videoing the cars. Don't ask me why!
 

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2005, 08:16:54 pm »
If anyone knows who was involved with the car accident in Station Road around 5pm on Saturday evening could they possibly let me know via the instant message system. The mirror which assists drivers exiting the scout hut was demolished, and we would like to be able to contact those involved with a view to having the mirror replaced.

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James
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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2005, 09:24:36 am »
How much will it cost to replace? As the mother of a scout I'd be willing to contribute towards the cost of a new one.

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2005, 09:28:40 pm »
Thanks for the offer Mermaid.

The police know who the person driving was, but can't tell us cos it would violate the Data Protection Act. Don't you just love it.

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2005, 11:07:05 pm »
Hi James,

I was very interested to spot your post about the police not letting you have the details of the person who knocked down your sign, citing the Data Protection Act. As it so happens, this is the precise subject of a debate that I have initiated at the House of Commons.

I've called the debate "Police Cautions and Data Protection" and it will take place in the Chamber of the House of Commons on Friday 14th October 2005.

I'm using the example of a Welwyn man whose car was vandalised and where the offender confessed to the police. However, to the victims surprise, he wasn't able to obtain the details of the offender, because the police had only issued a caution, rather than prosecuting. Of course if the case goes to criminal court then the details of the individual are usually in the public domain.

Here’s the actual story from Welwyn Hatfield Times:
http://www.herts24.co.uk/content/whtimes/news/story.aspx?brand=whtonline&category=news&tBrand=herts24&tCategory=newswhtimes&itemid=WEED03%20Aug%202005%2009%3A27%3A05%3A270

Anyway, the long and the short of this is that I'd be pleased to include your incident in that debate. A Home Office Minister will be coming to the Chamber and I will be asking whether the police are correctly interpreting this law correctly and whether a change in the law might be helpful to remedy this obvious injustice.

I have had a discussion with the Area Police Commander, Alison Roome-Gifford, who says that the police will be watching the debate closely. Previously the Herts Constabulary have based their nondisclosure of offenders details on advice from their own legal team.

If you can let me have any further details, you can always email me at: grant@shapps.com or call me on 020 7219 8497.

Kind regards,
Grant Shapps MP


 

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2005, 11:31:53 pm »
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The police know who the person driving was, but can't tell us cos it would violate the Data Protection Act. Don't you just love it.

Silly question maybe, but if it was a damage accident surely there is an obligation for them to at least put you in contact with (or pass your details to) the drivers insurance company? Or if the police won't pass the information to you perhaps they'll deal direct with your property insurers?


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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2005, 01:09:54 pm »
I don't think the car insurers would pay for the mirror it would have to be from the property insurance. 
 

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2005, 03:53:10 pm »
If someone does someone or their property it is normal to contact that person and ask them to pay for the damage.
If they refuse then a solicitor could be appointed to persue and  then the onus is on the plaintif to take the defendant to the small claims court.
Proof that the damage was caused by the plaintif and a receipt of the cost of repair would be needed.
Even if a judgement was made in the plantiffs favour it is unlikely that the defendent would pay.
Collection/bailiffs charges would be possibly more than the cost was worth.
The plaintif could posibly demonstrate inability to pay.
In other words the legal system stinks and the cost of replacing the mirror comes down to the pocket of the looser.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2005, 09:23:58 am »
Two points:-
1)The Police decision can be challenged. Contact the Information Commissioner who can look into the matter: http://www.informationcommissioner.gov.uk/eventual.aspx?id=32. The Scouts as a local body have a legitimate interest in the information and the Data Protection Act does not prevent the release of the information. That is a commonly held fallacy.
2) Also I thought that if you damage another persons property whilst driving and fail to give your insurance details, it was a criminal offence. It used to be called 'failing to stop and report' and 'failing to provide insurance details when requied by law to do so'. Sounds like you need a little advice from a solicitor who knows DP and criminal law to me. Surely someone would provide this advice free to the Scouts....
 

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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2005, 11:43:46 am »
I've called the debate "Police Cautions and Data Protection" and it will take place in the Chamber of the House of Commons on Friday 14th October 2005.

I'm using the example of a Welwyn man whose car was vandalised and where the offender confessed to the police. However, to the victims surprise, he wasn't able to obtain the details of the offender, because the police had only issued a caution, rather than prosecuting. Of course if the case goes to criminal court then the details of the individual are usually in the public domain.

This debate can be now read at www.theyworkforyou.com

(Off topic, but I really recomend this site for anyone who wants to have some idea of what their MP is upto. They have an RSS feed so you don'r have to keep checking the site)
 

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2007, 09:19:25 am »
It might have been up a few days now, but I've only just noticed it..

The A1000 between the roundabout near the Rookery Cafe, Welham Green and the Europlants Nursery, just North West of the Texaco Garage is to be closed in both directions for 5 nights from 26th March 20:00hrs to 06:00hrs for re-surfacing work. Apart from the potential inconvenience, there will presumably be a diversion route via Whites Corner, Station Road, Hawkshead Road, Bluebridge Road to Little Heath. People may however, chose other roads like Holloways Lane, Brookmans Avenue, Georges Wood Road, Moffats Lane, Mymms Drive, Calder Avenue or Swanley Bar Lane to cut off the diversion. That may lead to more traffic overnight next week for residents of Welham Green, BP or Little Heath. This could involve HGV's. Although they probably shouldn't and some of these roads are private, they are public highways, they'll have to go somewhere and I can't believe there will be anyone 'policing' inappropriate road usage. Time for the ear plugs if you want a nights undisturbed sleep!
 

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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2007, 08:28:56 pm »
Diversion route is indeed via Station Road/Bluebridge Road/Hawkshead Road. Concerned there is a danger those travelling towards Hatfield and join the A1000 after Little Heath will turn into Bell Lane, opposite the garage, down the very narrow Bulls Lane where there is a height restricted bridge (13'6") and on to Station Road or Holloways Lane. Welham Green has the 7.5 tonne weight restriction. I hope the road works are short lived otherwise there could be a few 'problems'!
 

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2007, 09:32:49 pm »
Night time closure again for '1 week' from 10th April, 20:00hrs - 06:00hrs, same stretch of road.
 

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2013, 08:28:16 pm »
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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2013, 08:41:40 am »
The M25 clockwise entry slip at junction J23  closed 10 pm and 6 am until 13 December 2013.


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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2013, 07:44:56 pm »
Thanks for the info.
 

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2014, 09:29:25 am »
Road blocked with police and ambulances in attendance between Hatfield and Welham Green.  Suggest it is best to avoid for a couple of hours.
 

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2014, 10:28:48 am »
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Police, fire and ambulance crews were called to the Great North Road shortly before 7am this morning after three cars collided. A man in his fifties has been taken to Addenbrooke's Hospital in Cambridge with serious injuries. Five other people have been taken to the Lister Hospital in Stevenage.
http://www.bobfm.co.uk/news/local-news/six-people-taken-to-hospital-after-crash-near-hatfield/


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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2014, 02:00:07 pm »
More on this from the WHT...

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Re: Driving updates, roads and motorways
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2014, 07:27:56 pm »
Might be useful information for local commuters using the east-bound M25 from Potters Bar.


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« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2014, 09:35:34 am »
If the motorway was closed then why was access allowed onto M25 at Potters bar east bound, Just wasted one and a half hours with many others because the authorities are complete incompetents.  >:(
 

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« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2014, 02:02:18 pm »



Sad to hear it was a fatality. BP
 

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