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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #90 on: September 07, 2013, 09:06:51 am »
I've always used cereal packets, egg boxes to put tea bags etc in to go in the brown bin so will have to get used to not doing that any more.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #91 on: September 07, 2013, 09:53:27 am »
Since using the local greengrocer we've used the brown paper bags to put food waste in before placing in the brown bin.

I wonder whether a brown paper bag counts as compostable waste ?

Not keen to put food waste straight in the bin as it attracts flies etc.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #92 on: September 07, 2013, 10:17:58 am »
Since using the local greengrocer we've used the brown paper bags to put food waste in before placing in the brown bin.

I wonder whether a brown paper bag counts as compostable waste ?

Not keen to put food waste straight in the bin as it attracts flies etc.

Me too!  They used to say to wrap in newspaper didn't they?  No doubt it will all be there in the small print somewhere.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #93 on: September 07, 2013, 10:09:15 pm »
According to the 'Changes' leaflet:

 'You can use newspaper or paper bags to wrap your food waste; you should no longer use cardboard' .. it continues that 'they are unable to empty brown bins that include food waste contained in plastic bags or corn starch 'plastic looking' compost bags, so please do not use these'.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #94 on: September 08, 2013, 11:55:23 am »
I'm wondering if we can put soft plastic, such as bags for fruit and veg and washed meat and fish bags from supermarkets, into the collection bins for carrier bags at the same supermarkets.

Apparently, we no longer have to take off bottle tops, according to the WH rep at Farmers' Market yesterday.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #95 on: September 08, 2013, 12:11:51 pm »
I don't believe so Chicken Legs. The leaflet specifically says no plastic bags or films of any kind. This is explained by the leaflet that soft plastics make a very small contribution to the council's recycling tonnage, but they significantly devalue the overall plastic recycled value. There is no longer a secure outlet for this type of plastic, so the recycling facilities no longer want them. The Council in effect are saying they will get more value to the hard plastics we recycle without the soft plastics included.

I hope this will result in more people taking shopping bags with them to the supermarket and not using the 'free' bags they provide. It is these that end up in landfill or adorning the trees, bushes and hedgerows as a result, or will become the fuel for the incinerator!
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #96 on: September 08, 2013, 12:27:22 pm »
I think chickenlegs is actually asking whether we can recycle plastic bags at a supermarket, rather than through the WH collection
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #97 on: September 08, 2013, 12:44:18 pm »
I think chickenlegs is actually asking whether we can recycle plastic bags at a supermarket, rather than through the WH collection
Yes! Note to self... read all the comment!  :icon_jokercolor: Hopefully supermarket will continue the practice as presumably they have a market for it, i.e. make new bags. I would rather that supermarkets stop issuing so many of these bags in the first place! If people can be bothered to bring them back to the supermarkets in the first place they are clearly concerned about recycling/waste management. It's those that don't care or can't be bothered are the ones that matter and they won't recycle whatever the supermarkets or WH Council do.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #98 on: September 08, 2013, 07:33:50 pm »
Does anyone know why we can not use compostable bags (potato starch) in the brown bins?  If they are vegetable matter and do what they say on the tin (compost down) why would this be a problem? 

Is it just that some people will abuse this and use ordinary plastic bags and it would be hard to identify the difference?  If so it would be a good scheme to have acceptable compost bags that were easily recognisable (e.g. bright orange) and available from the post office.  Similar to the scheme they used to have for garden waste bags.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #99 on: September 08, 2013, 08:26:18 pm »
I have been using such bags (bought from Sainsburys) to put food waste in the brown bins for the last 18 months or so. I haven't had one rejected yet....

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #100 on: September 09, 2013, 09:39:23 am »
Is it just that some people will abuse this and use ordinary plastic bags and it would be hard to identify the difference?  If so it would be a good scheme to have acceptable compost bags that were easily recognisable (e.g. bright orange) and available from the post office.  Similar to the scheme they used to have for garden waste bags.
I've always been puzzled by this, but I did a quick Google to find others with the same query. Appears you are right JacquiW. I noticed this on Dorset County Council's Portland and Weymouth website :

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Using a non-approved liner may mean your brown bin is not emptied. Corn starch liners are NOT acceptable, even if they say they are compostable. This is because our crews cannot easily distinguish between these bags and plastic bags when looking for contamination in a bin.


Other council's like Rochdale or Tower Hamlets are happy to accept them  :icon_scratch:.

I can't find this policy clarified anywhere by our own Council, only that they are not acceptable, but it seems the most logical. In one forum I noticed someone says 'McDonalds brown paper bags are the perfect size for food caddies'. The one down side of that, is one has to' buy McDonalds to get them'! Or, I suppose, you could visit any roadside, hedgerow or ditch and retrieve them! - Yuk!
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #101 on: September 09, 2013, 01:19:41 pm »
In France they have not supplied plastic bags for some years now. However, there is a plentiful supply of cardboard boxes for those who forget their own bags! These boxes can then be recycled with the weekly doorstep collection along with the plastic, cans etc.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #102 on: September 20, 2013, 09:12:29 am »
Nothing in the green bin at the moment, so just had to put food waste in the black bin as cant put cardboard in any more or use compostable bags.

I can really only put food in now if there is grass or other green stuff in the bin

Not sure what the council want us to do here so looks like there policy will be increasing landfill :icon_scratch:

maybe its a devious plot to increase "food" for the incinerator... >:D

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #103 on: September 20, 2013, 10:36:54 am »
Not sure what the council want us to do here so looks like there policy will be increasing landfill :icon_scratch:

The "Changes to your collection services" card, delivered to us this week, says you can use newspaper or paper bags to wrap your food waste to put in the brown bin.  There's also information on http://www.welhat.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3213

Collecting food waste separately on a weekly basis for anaerobic digestion is what the Government wants to see happening - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/anaerobic-digestion-strategy-and-action-plan

Friends of the Earth have a useful briefing on AD which may be of interest - http://www.foe.co.uk/resource/briefings/anaerobic_digestion.pdf
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #104 on: September 21, 2013, 12:54:16 pm »
If you're concerned about lining your wheelie bin, the acceptable materials include 'shredded paper'. This is because this will compost easily. You could consider shredding newspaper or the like and lining the bottom of the bin with that. I suspect that would be absolutely fine.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #105 on: September 21, 2013, 02:06:20 pm »
Tesco sells brown paper food caddy liners that you can put in the brown bin.
Not sure who else sells them locally.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #106 on: September 21, 2013, 10:01:31 pm »
Perhaps the supermarkets could supply brown paper bin liners free of charge, after all they are the reason we all have so much rubbish to dispose of.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #107 on: September 24, 2013, 08:58:28 am »
What a pity that since the new recycling rules:

- our black landfill bin has more in it.
- and we don't have enough space for cardboard and glass and plastic in the blue top bin.

This will mean more trips to the tip to get rid of material that can't fit into the recycling bins and more waste for landfill.

What we really need is a way of recycling flimsy plastic and another container for cardboard.

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #108 on: September 24, 2013, 10:52:11 am »
We have always recycled our cardboard at Cranborne rather than putting it into compost, and there is a facility in Sainsburys car park which takes paper and card, including cardboard.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #109 on: September 24, 2013, 11:33:45 am »
We have always recycled our cardboard at Cranborne rather than putting it into compost

I don't think we are supposed to use Cranborne as it comes under Hertsmere!  I always used to go there though as the one at Cole Green Lane is a bit too far away (and not as nice!)
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #110 on: July 12, 2014, 11:07:52 am »
TOP TIP

Line the bottom of your brown recycling bin with a small amount of slow-to-decompose garden waste as soon as the bin has been emptied. This helps prevents food waste sticking to the bottom and going smelly over the next two weeks.

Since the spring I have been keeping various hedge, shrub and other garden cuttings in an old black bin so that when the brown recycling bins have been emptied I can create a thin layer of leaves and twigs at the bottom of the bin. Two weeks later, when the brown bin is emptied, all the contents fall out and the inside base of the bin is clean. In the past, some waste would rot, stick to the bottom of the bin and had to be washed out.

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #111 on: December 24, 2014, 06:26:38 am »
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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #112 on: January 02, 2015, 11:31:02 am »
You will now need a permit if you are using a van, pickup truck, commerical type vehicle or vehicle and trailer combination to take household waste to the council dump. http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/envplan/waste/wasteaware/hwrc1/vanperm/


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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #113 on: January 02, 2015, 12:28:40 pm »
Let's expect even more fly tipping then

What a stupid idea.
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #114 on: January 02, 2015, 02:39:28 pm »
As well as being a monumentally stupid idea, I wonder if it is actually legal?


As a person who happens to drive a van, I will be discriminated against, and limited to only one visit per month whereas there appears to be no limit for car drivers.


Van drivers pay the same Council tax as car drivers and should be entitled to the same services.


Surely any limits imposed, should be on quantity and type of rubbish, not what vehicle you happen to drive?
 

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Re: Recycling household waste
« Reply #115 on: January 03, 2015, 10:41:37 am »
Let's expect even more fly tipping then

That would be such a pity. Judging by what we come across on our walks, fly-tipping is already on the increase.
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« Reply #116 on: January 03, 2015, 10:48:09 am »

I posted this back in July last year on the 'Fly Tipping' thread. Obviously HCC have now decided to completely ignore the Public consultation.

Why do they bother to have them when they just go ahead with their original plan anyway?.....It is simply just going through the motions.....Makes you wonder about the Local Plan 'Consultation' that will be undertaken shortly.......

Herts County Council are proposing to reduce the opening hours and also reduce the number of open days
from seven to five of all their Household Waste Recycling Centres ( tip or dump to you and  me).They are currently consulting online -https://consult.hertsdirect.org/hwrcconsultation2014/I would urge you all to comment on this as I believe these changes will inevitably lead to more fly tipping. The consultation ends on August 3rd.The comments that I made regarding fly tipping are below -I am concerned about the proposed clamp down on commercial vehicles.I fear this will lead to increased fly tipping.A large percentage of fly tipping is garden waste - tree cuttings etc.Why does HCC not actively encourage rather than discourage the disposal of this green 'commercial waste' at its recycling centres, this material is actually composted and generates income.Where is the logic in actually paying for a team to attend and clear green waste fly tipping sites?In addition I think that to reduce the opening days and hours of the sites is a backward step in an age where recycling should be encouraged as much as possible.It will inevitably result in more waste going to landfill.I also believe that these proposals will lead to an increase fly tipping - I note that your data refuting this mainly includes statistics on site closures - not reductions in opening days and times and does not include statistics on the effects of deterringcommercial vehicles.
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